Pacific Wings Fired For Pilots Starting Union???
#41
Well I have what some call a great deal of experience in management, and am working to match my experience in the cockpit. From what I saw of that company, rarely did the mistake made by a pilot or counter agent deserve the extremely harsh punishments that were handed out. I was one person that left for not enjoying the job, but you have to keep in mind many people cannot afford to move to Maui and then just jump ship and move back to the mainland. It takes a decent amount of money to make those moves, so many pilots are in a positions where they just have to stick it out for long enough to gather the money to escape the line of rocks in the Pacific known as Hawaii. The other thing that most of the pilots were probably thinking is there are few pilot jobs out there right now, and many of the SIC's are completely out of the flying gig if they do not have a CFI. There are few jobs in the market to begin with and even fewer that want a low time pilot. I dont think it is really a fare comment to say if you dont like your job just quit. Nor is it a practical way of doing things. If everyone that didnt like there job "just quit" than more than 1/2 of this countries work force would be unemployed. At least I assume a number around 1/2.
#42
Very interesting thread indeed!!!
I was invited to HI for interview & sim eval to be placed in a hiring pool a few months back. What shocked me the most about the page long (apology-?) letter they send me before starting the process was that they make people toss bags for weeks and months (SIC's) and you have to go through the ranks of ramprats and reservations to get to fly a stupid Caravan... Then there was this ridicoulous training contract... I was advised to ask for interview & eval to be performed on the mainland, which was not possible.
I was literally ROFL!
Realistically, with the desperate state of the industry, does anyone really think they will have trouble recruiting the lemmings they need to keep the ship afloat? From what I hear people are just about ready to kill for a right seat in a 172 and would even pay for that...
Good luck to all involved. More luck to those who either got fired or are no longer involved...
I was invited to HI for interview & sim eval to be placed in a hiring pool a few months back. What shocked me the most about the page long (apology-?) letter they send me before starting the process was that they make people toss bags for weeks and months (SIC's) and you have to go through the ranks of ramprats and reservations to get to fly a stupid Caravan... Then there was this ridicoulous training contract... I was advised to ask for interview & eval to be performed on the mainland, which was not possible.
Just make your way down here and ask for your interview, and we will take it from there.
Realistically, with the desperate state of the industry, does anyone really think they will have trouble recruiting the lemmings they need to keep the ship afloat? From what I hear people are just about ready to kill for a right seat in a 172 and would even pay for that...
Good luck to all involved. More luck to those who either got fired or are no longer involved...
#44
I doubt highly that PW's actions have anything to do with the economy.
My thought is that they got rid of people who could get them in trouble for being a lousy operation. There are lots of people with a lot of integrity in this business, and PW will go down the pipes, if not over this, then over something else. I'm sorry for the people who had to put up with their crap, but am glad they walked away from it, able to complain and tell.
Maybe it can serve others to ask questions and research more before jumpin into this head first.
#45
I wasn't there long enough, but I think you guys are taking this way out of context. As far as how many times I actually saw Gabe...he's the president of the company. I'm surprised I saw him the amount of times I actually did.
You are obviously hurt and angry by what happened, but it seems like you didn't enjoy your job with the company to begin with so why were you wasting your time with PW? If you guys do take legal action then I wish you the best!
RPJ, yeah, I didn't pick up on who you were first, but I remember you.
You are obviously hurt and angry by what happened, but it seems like you didn't enjoy your job with the company to begin with so why were you wasting your time with PW? If you guys do take legal action then I wish you the best!
RPJ, yeah, I didn't pick up on who you were first, but I remember you.
So to all people reading this.........JV811 is a weak willed individual that is impersonating a pilot. Don't listen to a word of what this person posts.
#48
Update!
I am proud to announce publicly that in the last few days the NLRB is currently investigating (and has contacted) Pacific Wings LLC concerning the termination of the 8 pilots who were suspected of union organization. Thought you guys would like to know.
#50
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Posts: 20
Can anyone let me know how to share my horrific and illeagal termination from Pathetic Wings with the NLRB to add to their current investigation? A website or phone number would be very appreciated. I hope those hoofed and horned besterds get what's coming to them and I'd love to do my part to help. Thank you.
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