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Old 12-07-2021, 08:04 PM
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So how long is it going to take Ameriflight to realize it’s a lot cheaper to bring back the $10,000 peak to peak bonus and keep their current pilots… Rather than offer new hires a $5,000 sign on bonus, in order to replace the pilots they’re losing, and then spend $20,000-$30,000 to train the new hires…
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Old 12-08-2021, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NewbiePilot
So how long is it going to take Ameriflight to realize it’s a lot cheaper to bring back the $10,000 peak to peak bonus and keep their current pilots… Rather than offer new hires a $5,000 sign on bonus, in order to replace the pilots they’re losing, and then spend $20,000-$30,000 to train the new hires…
I don’t know. Maybe you should email the CEO and share your business strategies.
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Old 12-09-2021, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FlightLife
I don’t know. Maybe you should email the CEO and share your business strategies.
As a serious question tho, are they hurting for pilots? Last week I saw 16 vacancies on their site, down to 10 this week. Their business model is that of “we know this is an intro/stepping stone” so pay & QOL isn’t that good for most; it does work for some, however. So it’s kinda built to have a revolving door of pilots.
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Old 12-09-2021, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by QRH Bingo
As a serious question tho, are they hurting for pilots? Last week I saw 16 vacancies on their site, down to 10 this week. Their business model is that of “we know this is an intro/stepping stone” so pay & QOL isn’t that good for most; it does work for some, however. So it’s kinda built to have a revolving door of pilots.
I think Newbie is on track but I wouldn't weigh in on specific numbers. Of course AMF doesn't want to be saddled with an inflated payroll when the talent shortage finally ends - you'd think that well-publicized bonuses could be a recruitment and retention tool for the near term. Perhaps peak-to-peak and at even-year anniversaries? I'm sure they're happy to have some attrition but they have got to meet their contracts meanwhile...
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Old 12-09-2021, 07:10 PM
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I’m surprised they can meet the contract requirements right now with all of the maintenance and attrition issues, and every month seems to be worse.
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Old 12-10-2021, 04:25 PM
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https://markets.businessinsider.com/...ons-1031039018

Writing on the wall for anyone considering this company, or already there. And it’s not that they can’t find skilled pilots, it’s that they can’t, or won’t change the toxic areas of the business that cause good pilots and mechanics/dispatchers to leave or look elsewhere.
And Covid just emphasized those things.

If pay and QoL and maintenance was what it should be, AMF would never find itself short of skilled, competent life long employees. I guess robots are easier and cheaper anyway.
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Old 12-10-2021, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kansaspilot92
https://markets.businessinsider.com/...ons-1031039018

Writing on the wall for anyone considering this company, or already there. And it’s not that they can’t find skilled pilots, it’s that they can’t, or won’t change the toxic areas of the business that cause good pilots and mechanics/dispatchers to leave or look elsewhere.
And Covid just emphasized those things.

If pay and QoL and maintenance was what it should be, AMF would never find itself short of skilled, competent life long employees. I guess robots are easier and cheaper anyway.
Ain’t not way some crooked flying POS 99 is going to be flown by a robot…. I’d like to see it crawl through the hatch to start with 😏
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Old 12-10-2021, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LeeroyJenkins92
No that’s all pretty much spot on. Schedule just went from 3 weeks on 1 week off to 4 weeks on 1 week off after the charter pilot group was asked to give up our week off through February “to be made up later” and the majority give that proposition a hard no.
So what type of pilot applies and accepts a job here? In today's wide opening hiring market how does this company fine pilots? 🤔
3 or 4 weeks on and one off is not sustainable.
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Old 12-10-2021, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamSasquatch;[url=tel:3334057
3334057[/url]]Ain’t not way some crooked flying POS 99 is going to be flown by a robot…. I’d like to see it crawl through the hatch to start with 😏

Nicely dun sir, nicely dun!
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Old 12-11-2021, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sidewinder27
So what type of pilot applies and accepts a job here? In today's wide opening hiring market how does this company fine pilots? 🤔
3 or 4 weeks on and one off is not sustainable.
QOL varies widely according to base & run. If you get a home-every-night lifestyle with weekends off in a town where you have roots, there's not much to complain about. Not everyone wants to wear polyester shirts and commute.
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