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Old 03-01-2020, 04:03 PM
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Are all 8 pilots CA hires?
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Old 03-02-2020, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotinghombre
I was a Captain qualified in two different aircraft at Ameriflight for almost two years. Out of the four 135 companies I have worked at in my career, sadly Ameriflight is the worst company I have ever worked at. Upper management is very dishonest in many different ways. I should have quit from the start. My initial application was to be home based Captain. Then I was told I had to pick a base! I wanted to go to Burbank, but they told me Burbank was closed. Then the bid sheet comes out the next day and Burbank was open!!! Another pilot was given Phoenix. He bought a house in Phoenix than the company moved him to Salt Lake without notice! Eventually that pilot got so fed up he quit.

Pay was a constant problem. I had to fight for my moving expense bonus because HR was saying that two weeks of hotel, and car rental all comes out of my bonus. Eventually they paid the bonus. It took them two weeks to do that, and for two weeks dispatch had me on the schedule and was calling asking why I wasn't showing up for work! Meanwhile, I had never been given travel to my base lol. The company actually also skipped me on two paychecks in a row! They only paid me on a debit card when I threatened to quit. Per diem pay was also incorrect and never paid on time.

Maintenance was also a huge problem. Mechanics at Ameriflight are paid very little so there is a lack of experienced mechanics for the old planes. Mechanics will fight with you over squawks and frequently write "Could not duplicate." Some of the senior pilots have to give maintenance ideas on how to fix the planes. As soon as the mechanics start to figure out how to work on these 1970 and 1980s planes, they leave for better paying jobs.

Training was a horrible experience. The chief pilot is just rude. If you go up to him and say hello, you might get a hello back, usually he just walks away. This happened to me once. I asked the other pilots if I did something wrong. They laughed and said that is just how he is lol. The current director of training doesn't even have a flying background and he has no idea what is going on. If you get lucky and get a nice training captain you will be fine. However, get a bad training captain and he will send secret notes to the director of training and program manager about how bad you are doing. Then all the secret notes will be looked at (notes you never saw, so you couldn't defend yourself against them) and you will be fired. Amazing that the company does this. I saw so many decent pilots kicked out of the company or told to leave, yet Ameriflight is contracting out their routes because they don't have pilots! Ameriflight also has several outstanding bills that they owe FBOs. One place I flew to refused to fuel our planes anymore, until Ameriflight paid the fuel bill!

Three bases also closed in the 18 months I was there. The company is still recovering from the last CEO embezzling funds. The new CEO is a nice guy and seems like he is trying, but I don't think he can be successful unless he gets rid of the horrible upper management pilots and revamps the training department. I think perhaps the biggest problem is that the upper management pilots don't live in Dallas where the company is headquartered. They aren't even at work half the time. Their idea of work is doing a company conference call and then doing surprise line audits on route pilots to bully them and tell them everything they are doing wrong. Meanwhile nothing gets done, morale is low, paperwork and pay is a constant disaster. With management's attitude, if you work for this company, you really have to know how to protect yourself. It is single pilot IFR without workable autopilot, without altitude alerters, in old worn down aircraft and some of the aircraft even have no GPS (a frequent annoyance to atc when they clear you for a GPS approach or route). UPS will also try to push you, cuss you out, and blame you for everything. If you make even the smallest mistake, expect remedial training and a write up from Ameriflight management.
Lastly, the schedule is horrendous. Agreed this is the UPS customer's schedule and not all of Ameriflights fault, but since Ameriflight never has enough pilots to cover, the little vacation that you have accrued will be rejected. (is this even legal? Can they prohibit you indefinitely from taking vacation?) I don't know if it is legal, but even if you have vacation days built up, they will deny it. Anyway, you will show at the airport at 5:20AM and get back home at about 8PM to do it all the next morning. If they had more pilots, this schedule would be acceptable, but do it five to six days a week and you won't have a life. Even worse, at many places, Saturday morning you have to fly the plane somewhere for the weekend, than drive 3 hours home. Of course, you then start the work week on Monday with a 3 hour drive. So it is 60 plus work week with six hours of driving between flights. You can call fatigue, but of course that is an incident report and a black mark on your record.

I really regret the 18 months I sacrificed at this company. I met some decent people there and gained some good experience, but I wish I would have worked somewhere where I was appreciated and protected instead of being lied to and exploited. Being paid on time and being able to use vacation time I had would have been nice too!
Sounds like the company hasn't changed a bit unfortunately.
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Old 03-02-2020, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by justfun
Are all 8 pilots CA hires?
2 E120 FOs. The rest are captains.
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Old 03-02-2020, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MinRest
Sounds like the company hasn't changed a bit unfortunately.
Yikes- that review described a nightmare.
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Old 03-02-2020, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by own nav
And there were many who held on for the next "P2P." If that's going away, it's kind of a big deal.
The program was changed so that only pilots of typed airplanes get it.... remember when the program STARTED, the piper twin was still a "entry level" plane, now the be-99 is. The intent of the change seems encourage pilots move up rather than move on from the be-99.
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Old 03-02-2020, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ZippyNH
The program was changed so that only pilots of typed airplanes get it.... remember when the program STARTED, the piper twin was still a "entry level" plane, now the be-99 is. The intent of the change seems encourage pilots move up rather than move on from the be-99.
CA's are sticking around fo ar 3-4k bonus and only making like 75k? You can go be a CA at any regional in like 2 years or less and make more than that getting jet time the whole time. Still don't understand why a little bonus is keeping anyone.
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Old 03-02-2020, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ZippyNH
The program was changed so that only pilots of typed airplanes get it.... remember when the program STARTED, the piper twin was still a "entry level" plane, now the be-99 is. The intent of the change seems encourage pilots move up rather than move on from the be-99.
How much is P2P under this new change?
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Old 03-03-2020, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by own nav
How much is P2P under this new change?
$10k/year
And can jump in at a pro-rated amount if you transition to type rated within the period.
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Old 03-03-2020, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FreightDogs
$10k/year
And can jump in at a pro-rated amount if you transition to type rated within the period.
Which is the same amount it was before after the initial.
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Old 03-03-2020, 01:39 PM
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6000 after taxes is what it is. Retention bonuses with stipulations are managements way of saying we don’t trust you and we are forcing you to be loyal. it is toxic. make the bonus part of salary instead and out do your competition and maybe you attract more pilots and it’s cheaper in the long run than constantly training new people and having to pay other companies to cover runs cause you cant hold on to your pilots. Companies with the carrot and not the stick so far better than others but management never sees that. Ibet AMF has spent more last year than the salary raise that would attract and keep pilots on tdy and chartered runs bcause they have no coverage. And more pilots means better quality of life which in turn attracts more pilots
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