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Old 06-20-2024, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by followingdreams
They do not fall under part 121, regardless of what you say
They're about to. If they stay in business.

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those yapping about superiority of 121 forget the large number of ex-121 pilots at places like jsx
Nobody here has claimed "superiority," until now. You're the only one to mention it.

It's not hing to do with "superiority." It's everything to do with the relevant regulations; the FAA is in the process of bringing operations like JSX into conformity with relevant regulatory oversight, to which they are not currently obligated. That will change.

If they stay in business.

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Old 06-21-2024, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by followingdreams
You are just showing how mis-informed you are. They do not fall under part 121, regardless of what you say
So they are not running a scheduled airline? Weird I can buy a ticket on them with a scheduled departure date and time!
I guess you think that's "charter".
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Old 06-21-2024, 02:31 PM
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Allowing JSX’s passengers and their baggage to bypass the screening regimen that all other scheduled commercial airline passengers and bags must go through is a significant risk that must be eliminated
ALPA must also demand all jet airline special charters meet the strict TSA guidelines for passenger and baggage screening, no more sports teams bussing up to the 757 on the FBO side. This is a glaring loophole in the nations security, (as evidenced by a recent video) what's the greater threat a 30 seat emb-145 to BFL or a loaded 757 gassed up for transcon?
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Old 06-21-2024, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by trip
...what's the greater threat a 30 seat emb-145 to BFL or a loaded 757 gassed up for transcon?
I'd much rather my congress critters know the greater threat is the two week "trained" TSA drone who flashes a badge and walks through the checkpoint than a vetted pilot (or FA for that matter) at any air carrier.

But that's just me.
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Old 06-21-2024, 05:28 PM
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ALPA must also demand all jet airline special charters meet the strict TSA guidelines for passenger and baggage screening, no more sports teams bussing up to the 757 on the FBO side. This is a glaring loophole in the nations security, (as evidenced by a recent video) what's the greater threat a 30 seat emb-145 to BFL or a loaded 757 gassed up for transcon?
Passengers were screened on all the sports charters I flew even at FBO's.
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Old 06-22-2024, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by followingdreams
You are just showing how mis-informed you are. They do not fall under part 121, regardless of what you say
Holy $__t. You just don't get it, do ya?
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Old 06-22-2024, 11:20 AM
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For years, the FAA has been lambasted for not being proactive and waiting until blood is spilled to change regulations.

But all is not lost, these airlines (and any airline) could apply for exemptions for all the 121 rules that they think are too stringent that they can provide an equivalent level of safety for and that are in the public interest.
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Old 06-22-2024, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by followingdreams
More correctly, had JSK pilot been represented by ALPA, ALPA would not be whining!
also on point

no one was complaining until SkyWest announced their 380 plan to employ those 200s
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Old 06-22-2024, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke




It's everything to do with the relevant regulations; the FAA is in the process of bringing operations like JSX into conformity with relevant regulatory oversight, to which they are not currently obligated. That will change.
again, you choose to ignore relevant regulations - like part 380

that you've never heard of it or haven't bothered to inform yourself doesn't mean it doesn't exist
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
So they are not running a scheduled airline? Weird I can buy a ticket on them with a scheduled departure date and time!
I guess you think that's "charter".
not what I or you think, it's what the rules say

not a loophole, just what FARs and DOT rules permit so if you don't like it, seek change in regs, but don't say they're not following rules o

part 380 - which is DECADES old - permits one company to buy flight from 135 operator, set schedule, sell tickets to public -

fine print on jsx website:

Flights are operated with E135 or E145 aircraft by Delux Public Charter, LLC (dba JSX Air or Taos Air), which holds an FAA Air Carrier Certificate (4DPA097O) and DOT commuter air carrier authorization. Flights are public charters sold by JetSuiteX, Inc. as the charter operator and Delux Public Charter, LLC as the direct air carrier, subject to DOT Public Charter Regulations at 14 C.F.R. Part 380. PC# 21-125 and PC# 22-
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