Midhgardhsorm

Hi everyone,
I'm a new member and after a good amount of teaching and examining (Part 141 Check Pilot) I'm ready to jump into the right seat of a business jet.

I saw a lot of great jobs in Southern Florida but I'd like to stay in Central Florida to keep doing part time Check Instructor (on my off days) while building my time in corporate/part 135/part 91.

I have 1200+ hours, not much multi but a little jet experience, can you please give me suggestions on the best path to take and also if you know any place hiring with "newer" planes?

I don't want to look snobby but I'd rather not fly anything older than a Lear 31A, Citation CJ3, Beech 400XP, Phenom 100/300.

Money is not that important as it is management, quality of airplanes/maintenance, schedule (I'm willing to have no set schedule and leave on a whim but I'd like not to be overworked or fly unairworthy stuff).
I rejected a couple of offers because they were from shady companies with crappy old planes.

If I needed to relocate to Southern Florida where would you go?

Thank you so much for the help.

P.S.
I've did some research in the forum before and I've found mostly outdated references so I'd like an updated situation (since the market is booming now).
I'll post this in the Corporate/Part 135/Fractional and 91 Sections

Walkeraviator

I would become a dog catcher before moving to south Florida and flying for those 134.5 carriers. I wish you luck finding something, but if you find an operation that fits your laundry list.... you will likely be competing with guys with twice your time. My suggestion is to go find the first paying job that logs you lots of flight time without jeopardizing your certificate. Get your time and move on. I hate the "paying you dues" kind of guys, but getting experience in older aircraft makes you a better pilot both inside the cockpit and out.

Midhgardhsorm

I know that in aviation it's always "paying your dues" time. A lot of "older" people in this forum apparently didn't have to grind as flight instructors past 1000 Dual Given and think my request is funny.

I think there's an overall lack of pilots right now (hence the regionals going twice/three times the old pay) so maybe I can find what I like instead of having to grind on unairworthy airplanes.

I'll keep looking for the best because I don't see the point in taking a ****ty job just because better jobs are more difficult to land. As of right now I have a steady job that gives hours so I'm in no urgency to move from flying old training planes to fly even older jets for the same pay.

Thanks for your polite answer. Most users on here were jerks.

Vital Signs

With that attitude I am shocked you do not have employers knocking down your door.

Otterpilot88

I literally busted out laughing when I read your post! Not trying to be disrespectful but all of the things u described as not being very desirable to you and your career and you would rather skip. Yes those are all the things that you will need to be able to do as a part 135 pilot. I am sorry but you are a flight instructor demanding that you don't want to fly an older light jet? The market is good right now, but it is not that good! I think you might need to get off this forum because you have a very bad perception of what part 135/91 flying really entails. Next time you are out at the airport and you see one those old crappy light jets come in, jump out of ur 172 and go ask those pilots what it is really like and what it took for them to get to that point. I apologize for the terrible grammar and run on sentences!

jonnyjetprop

You won't find many 135 outfits in Central Florida. Most outfits are based out of South Florida. If you're moving for a job, I'd relocate between Fort Lauderdale and West Palm Beach. You'll want to be within an hour of FXE, PBI and BCT.

Air Charter Guide can be consulted for outfits in the Orlando area.

Midhgardhsorm

I've said it before and I'll say it again: people on this forum are jerks.

Someone with terrible grammar and that writes "ur" shouldn't tell other people to get off a forum.

My post wasn't offensive but your reply was. Also why would I get off a forum because I have a bad perception? Instead of telling me what it really is you're just being a jerk.
If I had this attitude towards my students I'd never get them to learn anything.

I am glad that people like you are not the majority in aviation (most people I know are helpful and are extremely happy to give you advice and help you get where they are).

Midhgardhsorm

Thanks! That's the kind of answer I was looking for! That was very helpful and I'll look up Air Charter Guide.

Midhgardhsorm

So I should bend over and get effed just because I need a job? That's exactly why the regionals were paying so low and FINALLY someone like me started saying "no, I won't fly for $1000 a month on a MD80" and now look at them. "Do you want to be a cadet while your build your hours? You get full employee benefits (with international travel benefits) and we will hire you as soon as you get to ATP minimums giving you 55k+/year!!!"

Also I'm shocked that people would fly unairworthy stuff just because that's jet time. No wonder accidents keep happening.

pilot0987

Accidents generally happen from a list of bad decisions. Old airplanes flying are not bad airplanes, it comes from bad decisions. When to say yes to a flight and having the experience to say no is what matters. Im glad ur not just taking any job, but keep in my mind its more about the companies as it is about the airplanes. I have flown big planes and small planes. You still have alot to learn about your abilities and decision making, you will get there. Bizjetjobs.com is a good source for jobs and florida always has jobs available. Always do your homework on the company before taking the job.