Seaborne Airlines
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#113
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Position: Saab 340, Right Seat
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#114
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
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I'm taken-aback by professional airline pilots thinking this is acceptable behavior. Would you think this acceptable from another airline- say United? Or ExpressJet.
The bottom line is its a company trying to attract quality candidates. By not extending a simple courtesy I can't imagine wanting to work there now.
Okay- that's it. I've beaten the dead horse.
#115
So screw professionalism?
I'm taken-aback by professional airline pilots thinking this is acceptable behavior. Would you think this acceptable from another airline- say United? Or ExpressJet.
The bottom line is its a company trying to attract quality candidates. By not extending a simple courtesy I can't imagine wanting to work there now.
Okay- that's it. I've beaten the dead horse.
I'm taken-aback by professional airline pilots thinking this is acceptable behavior. Would you think this acceptable from another airline- say United? Or ExpressJet.
The bottom line is its a company trying to attract quality candidates. By not extending a simple courtesy I can't imagine wanting to work there now.
Okay- that's it. I've beaten the dead horse.
Let me put it another way...
Say I ask a gal out for a date. She says, "no, you're not my type." Should I make an effort to send her a note thanking her for the rejection?
You rejected the company.
#116
I'm going to go on the other side here. If this company was at all professional, there would be someone above the recruiter/HR/interviewer that holds THAT person responsible. If someone washes out or changes their mind, especially "during" an interview, they should want to hear about it, and the interviewer has a duty to ask why IMO. That doesn't mean the company can do anything necessarily to change the circumstances, but that data would always be good to have. To not ask for it shows they really don't care IMO. Not a great sign...
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You rejected the company.
That little tiny issue has taken a great experience and turned it completely sour.
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Posts: 109
I got an offer from Seaborne for a phone interview the other day. I did my research ahead of time, and I am aware of the cost of the commute, the cost of rentals, the cost of food, etc... I have questions about the training contract, and their involvement with the CASS system. I'm not an Airline guy yet so I don't understand how Seaborne can have it with some, but not others. That's info I will need to calculate a decision for employment.
But here's the deal. Since I sent my application in, I have had a change with my end of active service date. I sent Kelly an email explaining why I couldn't make an April class date. I let her know ahead of time so I wouldn't waste her time, and to hopefully allow for them to pull another fellow pilot out of the stack, so that they might have an opportunity. She responded to the email in a professional manner. I don't think Seaborne has lost their professionalism. I also had an offer from ExpressJet with a class date, because of my change of availability, I had to defer, and possibly miss a great opportunity. I explained the situation to ExpressJet, and they were professional how they explained that they understood.
I think the airlines are professional. Either that was a one time fluke, where she let one slip through the cracks - If I was sifting through thousands of applicants for a handful of slots, it would happen to me too. Or maybe she got frustrated that she just wasted a half hour of her time, and wondered why somebody can't research basic questions ahead of time. Tough to say what the reason for not responding to an email is.... But any way you look at it, as a pilot in an employers market, I would be happy to be in a position to turn an interview down and move about your day.
Back to the original subject of the thread, Seaborne is conducting phone interviews yesterday and today for an April class date for the Saab.
But here's the deal. Since I sent my application in, I have had a change with my end of active service date. I sent Kelly an email explaining why I couldn't make an April class date. I let her know ahead of time so I wouldn't waste her time, and to hopefully allow for them to pull another fellow pilot out of the stack, so that they might have an opportunity. She responded to the email in a professional manner. I don't think Seaborne has lost their professionalism. I also had an offer from ExpressJet with a class date, because of my change of availability, I had to defer, and possibly miss a great opportunity. I explained the situation to ExpressJet, and they were professional how they explained that they understood.
I think the airlines are professional. Either that was a one time fluke, where she let one slip through the cracks - If I was sifting through thousands of applicants for a handful of slots, it would happen to me too. Or maybe she got frustrated that she just wasted a half hour of her time, and wondered why somebody can't research basic questions ahead of time. Tough to say what the reason for not responding to an email is.... But any way you look at it, as a pilot in an employers market, I would be happy to be in a position to turn an interview down and move about your day.
Back to the original subject of the thread, Seaborne is conducting phone interviews yesterday and today for an April class date for the Saab.
#119
I got an offer from Seaborne for a phone interview the other day. I did my research ahead of time, and I am aware of the cost of the commute, the cost of rentals, the cost of food, etc... I have questions about the training contract, and their involvement with the CASS system. I'm not an Airline guy yet so I don't understand how Seaborne can have it with some, but not others. That's info I will need to calculate a decision for employment.
But here's the deal. Since I sent my application in, I have had a change with my end of active service date. I sent Kelly an email explaining why I couldn't make an April class date. I let her know ahead of time so I wouldn't waste her time, and to hopefully allow for them to pull another fellow pilot out of the stack, so that they might have an opportunity. She responded to the email in a professional manner. I don't think Seaborne has lost their professionalism. I also had an offer from ExpressJet with a class date, because of my change of availability, I had to defer, and possibly miss a great opportunity. I explained the situation to ExpressJet, and they were professional how they explained that they understood.
I think the airlines are professional. Either that was a one time fluke, where she let one slip through the cracks - If I was sifting through thousands of applicants for a handful of slots, it would happen to me too. Or maybe she got frustrated that she just wasted a half hour of her time, and wondered why somebody can't research basic questions ahead of time. Tough to say what the reason for not responding to an email is.... But any way you look at it, as a pilot in an employers market, I would be happy to be in a position to turn an interview down and move about your day.
Back to the original subject of the thread, Seaborne is conducting phone interviews yesterday and today for an April class date for the Saab.
But here's the deal. Since I sent my application in, I have had a change with my end of active service date. I sent Kelly an email explaining why I couldn't make an April class date. I let her know ahead of time so I wouldn't waste her time, and to hopefully allow for them to pull another fellow pilot out of the stack, so that they might have an opportunity. She responded to the email in a professional manner. I don't think Seaborne has lost their professionalism. I also had an offer from ExpressJet with a class date, because of my change of availability, I had to defer, and possibly miss a great opportunity. I explained the situation to ExpressJet, and they were professional how they explained that they understood.
I think the airlines are professional. Either that was a one time fluke, where she let one slip through the cracks - If I was sifting through thousands of applicants for a handful of slots, it would happen to me too. Or maybe she got frustrated that she just wasted a half hour of her time, and wondered why somebody can't research basic questions ahead of time. Tough to say what the reason for not responding to an email is.... But any way you look at it, as a pilot in an employers market, I would be happy to be in a position to turn an interview down and move about your day.
Back to the original subject of the thread, Seaborne is conducting phone interviews yesterday and today for an April class date for the Saab.
Additionally, based on the fact that we were an airline that flew twin Otters with no cockpit jumpseat, some of our agreements are for cabin only. Earlier this evening the FAA added the Saab to our Op Spec. With the introduction of service of an aircraft that has a cockpit jumpseat, we are hoping to improve our existing jumpseat agreements and add new ones.
As far as deciding whether to come to Seaborne or not, life in the islands is expensive and we work hard down here. That being said, if you are looking for an adventure, we may be just the place for you. Either way, I wish you the best in your aviation career regardless of which airline you end up at.
#120
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Posts: 109
Good info drummerguy, thanks. What is the training contract?
I lived in San Juan as a youngster when my dad was getting his career going with eagle. Spent a bunch of time island hopping with a mask snorkel and fins. Got my scuba rating without ever even going in a pool. Absolutely a great time.
Probably wont max out the Roth IRA working in the tropics, but I don't think you will look back later in life with regret.
If they still offer classes in August, hopefully I can line something up.
I lived in San Juan as a youngster when my dad was getting his career going with eagle. Spent a bunch of time island hopping with a mask snorkel and fins. Got my scuba rating without ever even going in a pool. Absolutely a great time.
Probably wont max out the Roth IRA working in the tropics, but I don't think you will look back later in life with regret.
If they still offer classes in August, hopefully I can line something up.
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