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Old 01-31-2012, 09:08 PM
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Cant we all just get along?
I believe in diplomacy through a six pack or a good bottle of single malt scotch. I have both if you want some diplomacy, lol
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If my single malt scotch you mean a bottle of 12 year old Glenfiddich, ill bring the ice.
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Old 01-31-2012, 09:42 PM
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Why does everyone get so uppity? How about we all quit making dbag remarks online and in person, (nobody helped me, so I won't help you ring a bell?) and act like adults?

Damn, you'd think if we could fly airplanes, then we could get past highschool drama...

Oh the interwebs.
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Old 01-31-2012, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
FYI, when I went through Eagle, my entire new hire check ride ( SF34) was in the sim based on my quals. Others in my class had to do the aircraft check based on their quals.

Nothing to do with the sim.
Eagle's Saab sim is level C. It has to do with hours and simulation level.

Level D sims have no hour requirement to complete 100% in the sim, like the 1900 sim at flight safety Mco. FAA551 is a level D.

Level C sim requires 85/15 unless the applicant meets certain requirements. 61.159 mins for SIC training...theres other requirements based on the category of training.

121 appendix H....this stuff isn't a secret, look it up before making false statements on a board discussing training where new pilots are looking for information.
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Old 02-01-2012, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jsfBoat
We lost a 4th this morning. A guy that had been struggeling all along, and was still in the CPT, hadn't been sent to MCO with the rest of us. Was sad for him when I saw him out side of the office of one of our management. I feel bad for people when that happens.
JSF I, am the guy you are talking about and this post is an outright LIE! I do not appreciate being categorized in this manner especially when this company let me know to my face that I was being let go because I did not priortize the company and give them first place in my life. It wasn't because I struggled THE WHOLE TIME. My story follows
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Originally Posted by On Autopilot
JSF I, am the guy you are talking about and this post is an outright LIE! I do not appreciate being categorized in this manner especially when this company let me know to my face that I was being let go because I did not priortize the company and give them first place in my life. It wasn't because I struggled THE WHOLE TIME. My story follows
But I though things at Silver were going great, Best regional ever, J/k guys... Hopefully things aren't turning to $hit there with everyone all busy with the recent hiring. Cruz how many people completed training on the Dec class?
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Old 02-01-2012, 05:34 AM
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SILVER AIRWAYS IS STILL GULFSTREAM (LIPSTICK ON A PIG)

I was at one time a real big supporter of this company, I even defended this place against detractors. But I was sadly, mistaken. I have witnessed 1 person get fired for reporting cheating (which they categorized as this person lying) so I hope she does what Kenny Edwards did as well as a few others and file under the whistle blower act- 2 of my good buddies that started with me get canned by a guy who told him they were both not going to make it before they even set foot in the sim for thier first sim session and now......me.

So this is what happened. when we first started in the CPT I struggled because my BAI INST skills were rusty. On top of that, my grandfather died. I was warned no to go back home to attend by a certain pilot who I will not mention because I fear they will retaliate on him. He told me this company has a reputation of firing peole for going home for funerals, sick love ones, etc.

I talk with the chief pilot, Chris Eason who warns me also in so many words going home would not be wise. I went anyway on a company approved leave. While at home I went to Sporty's academy and got my issues with BAI INST ILS fixed. THANKS SPORTY'S!!

I then returned and was RECOMMENDED to continue and put up for stage check. WHile doing the stage, the sim broke. I was told i would have to go to Orlando. Lilly then tells me she wanted to gage my progress on the emergency action items and limitations since while I was gone I didn't study because of the funeral. She said it would be a mock oral then said if I failed, I would be sent home. I said this is not how we do things and we don't do mock orals, this is not sanctioned by the company. She told me I had to know what my priorities are. (a direct jab at my funeral leave.)

So we start this thing and I was answering her questions before she completed asking them. She then went into the sys / om vol 1 and told me I had to know this 100%. When of course, I didn't, she said I would have to meet with the chief pilot.
During this whole time, a Captain that taught the sys class that day sat in. He then lectures me by saying that I know you don't know me, but I know you and heard about your going home. You proved to us we don't have first place in your life, we expect you to give us first place and nothing is to interfere with that. He says because of my actions I would be given an oppurtunity to pursue other endeavors.

The next day I meet with the cheif pilot who gives the choice to resign or be terminated. I ask on what grounds? He tells me I struggled all through training. I asked him for examples and he got silent. I said Chris let's be straight. I told him what the captain told me, he simply shrugs, acknowledged it and says what are you going to do?
I chose to resign. The kicker? When I asked about going home he says once you resign, we don't provide transport home.
So I go back to the hotel room, pack my gear, and jumpseat home. I will mail them thier stuff later.

I am, sadly, not the only one who went through this. We had a guy in SAAB upgrade whose uncle died and while he was home, his mom gets seriously ill. He takes FMLA and when he returns, he is banned from the SAAB upgrade class.
He is sent back to the 1900 and the company is actively seeking his termination. These people have no ethics, empathy or morals. I do not wish to work for a company that treats it's employees like this then tells new hires when folks don't make it some kind of white washed lie. Like the girl who supposedly washed during the oral, it wasn't that she washed, they were ****ed she reported cheating. Lilly told her and all of us she would be fired right before our last day of sys. They washed her within the first 15 minutes of the oral.
Just so you know, that place I thought had changed, but it's still the same old gulfstream.

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Old 02-01-2012, 05:42 AM
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But I though things at Silver were going great, Best regional ever, J/k guys... Hopefully things aren't turning to $hit there with everyone all busy with the recent hiring. Cruz how many people completed training on the Dec class?
It's always, been $hit, they just flowered it up, called it fuscia and told us and everyone else that they had changed.
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by On Autopilot
SILVER AIRWAYS IS STILL GULFSTREAM (LIPSTICK ON A PIG)

I was at one time a real big supporter of this company, I even defended this place against detractors. But I was sadly, mistaken. I have witnessed 1 person get fired for reporting cheating (which they categorized as this person lying) so I hope she does what Kenny Edwards did as well as a few others and file under the whistle blower act- 2 of my good buddies that started with me get canned by a guy who told him they were both not going to make it before they even set foot in the sim for thier first sim session and now......me.

So this is what happened. when we first started in the CPT I struggled because my BAI INST skills were rusty. On top of that, my grandfather died. I was warned no to go back home to attend by a certain pilot who I will not mention because I fear they will retaliate on him. He told me this company has a reputation of firing peole for going home for funerals, sick love ones, etc.

I talk with the chief pilot, Chris Eason who warns me also in so many words going home would not be wise. I went anyway on a company approved leave. While at home I went to Sporty's academy and got my issues with BAI INST ILS fixed. THANKS SPORTY'S!!

I then returned and was RECOMMENDED to continue and put up for stage check. WHile doing the stage, the sim broke. I was told i would have to go to Orlando. Lilly then tells me she wanted to gage my progress on the emergency action items and limitations since while I was gone I didn't study because of the funeral. She said it would be a mock oral then said if I failed, I would be sent home. I said this is not how we do things and we don't do mock orals, this is not sanctioned by the company. She told me I had to know what my priorities are. (a direct jab at my funeral leave.)

So we start this thing and I was answering her questions before she completed asking them. She then went into the sys / om vol 1 and told me I had to know this 100%. When of course, I didn't, she said I would have to meet with the chief pilot.
During this whole time, a Captain that taught the sys class that day sat in. He then lectures me by saying that I know you don't know me, but I know you and heard about your going home. You proved to us we don't have first place in your life, we expect you to give us first place and nothing is to interfere with that. He says because of my actions I would be given an oppurtunity to pursue other endeavors.

The next day I meet with the cheif pilot who gives the choice to resign or be terminated. I ask on what grounds? He tells me I struggled all through training. I asked him for examples and he got silent. I said Chris let's be straight. I told him what the captain told me, he simply shrugs, acknowledged it and says what are you going to do?
I chose to resign. The kicker? When I asked about going home he says once you resign, we don't provide transport home.
So I go back to the hotel room, pack my gear, and jumpseat home. I will mail them thier stuff later.

I am, sadly, not the only one who went through this. We had a guy in SAAB upgrade whose uncle died and while he was home, his mom gets seriously ill. He takes FMLA and when he returns, he is banned from the SAAB upgrade class.
He is sent back to the 1900 and the company is actively seeking his termination. These people have no ethics, empathy or morals. I do not wish to work for a company that treats it's employees like this then tells new hires when folks don't make it some kind of white washed lie. Like the girl who supposedly washed during the oral, it wasn't that she washed, they were ****ed she reported cheating. Lilly told her and all of us she would be fired right before our last day of sys. They washed her within the first 15 minutes of the oral.
Just so you know, that place I thought had changed, but it's still the same old gulfstream.
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