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Old 11-05-2013, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by boeingsky
Upgrade time still 1.5 years? Looks like a nice place to stay at while building time and the 2 pilots that i have had a chance to jumpseat with were over all happy.
Are you sure you talked to Silver pilots? Most here are unhappy, except the top 40ish guys. I've been here almost 2 years, and I "....might be able to hold B1900 Captain" according to the CP.

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Given your circumstances you shouldn't go to Silver. The training is not good and many people wash out. I wouldn't expect you to get extra sim sessions if you are struggling either that's been hit or miss. There is other regionals that come to mind with much better training programs and give extra sims if need be that I'd consider first. Good luck in your decision barring on major screw up at the interview you'll get the job they need every body with a pulse they can get.
Cruz is spot on. Here at Silver, you're allotted so many sim sessions, and if you can't finish, you're sent home. This is not the place to come to if you don't have a good foundation. As Mexipilot said, Silver puts people through the Space Shuttle training, you guys remember the B1900 days?

You have to take a very honest assessment of yourself and why you didn't make it through RAH.... and never ever ever blame another airline of why you didn't make it through, especially in an interview. Learn from your mistakes, and don't let it happen again.
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Old 11-05-2013, 10:48 AM
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Boeingsky-- not telling you not to come here, because we need the pilots, but what about CommutAir? Similar equipment, pay, and contract, with an IAD base and 1.5-2 year upgrade. Just food for thought...
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Old 11-05-2013, 10:52 AM
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:09 AM
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I made the mistake of going to Silver at the end of the hiring spree in mid 2012. Hold a line in Florida in 2-3 months I was told. Upgrade in a year I was told. The only place I could hold a line was in Mississippi- even there I got bumped to RSV after 4-5 months of holding a line by people pref bidding in. The problem is the lack of seniority list movement and the DEC's that were hired. The only ones upgrading in the near future will be the senior FO's. If you go to Silver be prepared to sit right seat in the S-A-A-B for years and always be in danger of losing your line (if you stay long enough to hold one). I'm so glad I left. What a terrible first 121 experience.
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sandrich
Boeingsky-- not telling you not to come here, because we need the pilots, but what about CommutAir? Similar equipment, pay, and contract, with an IAD base and 1.5-2 year upgrade. Just food for thought...
I totally forgot about them I'd say that's a better alternative than what you've listed.
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Cruz, are you going to watch Moonshiners?
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:29 AM
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Ok boengsky. Half the people you are getting advice from here quit and went elsewhere but much of what they say is true. The Saab training is severely shortened. Less sim and less ground school time. Nearly half of what others did in the past on the same bird. That being said, it used to be about 10% of people that couldn't get through. Now with the stellar quality of candidate we attract I have heard rumors less than half get through. If you study hard and actually know how to fly IFR, do a V1 cut, ask for checklists, and remember to add power when you get an engine failure or shut one down due to fire, you will be good. It ain't rocket science. It truly is that simple. Something breaks and lights go on and bells go off, "give me the _____________ QRC/QRH please." Then sit back and watch the pilot monitoring flip some switches while Bob(autopilot) flies.
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Originally Posted by jsfBoat
Are you sure you talked to Silver pilots? Most here are unhappy, except the top 40ish guys. I've been here almost 2 years, and I "....might be able to hold B1900 Captain" according to the CP.



Cruz is spot on. Here at Silver, you're allotted so many sim sessions, and if you can't finish, you're sent home. This is not the place to come to if you don't have a good foundation. As Mexipilot said, Silver puts people through the Space Shuttle training, you guys remember the B1900 days?

You have to take a very honest assessment of yourself and why you didn't make it through RAH.... and never ever ever blame another airline of why you didn't make it through, especially in an interview. Learn from your mistakes, and don't let it happen again.
Sorry about the typos, driving cross country using speech dictation on the phone. Of corse I made mistakes. I have yet to see someone that does not. And i do not blame RAH for this at all. I believe their is room for improvements in their training program, and i have also giant steps to improve my capabilities as well. I do have a good foundation in aviation, grew up flying, and private rated on the day of my birthdate of leale age. All experience has been gained up in the north east which is a tad bit harder than sunny Florida. Look I do not have to defend my capabilities on here, however taking your advice as to what led up to the RAH experience. The only thing that I could improve on was the automation of the aircraft. Understanding and utilizing it was the hardest part for me. I am not going to go in to specific details but truth is i know what i can improved on and have take the nessary steps to do so. Out of our 28 person class only 7 made it to the line. And we all had 1500+ hours. SO yes of corse their are improvements that can be made on my part, But numbers talk and with those gives their was a serious problem with Flight safety at the time when I was going through. However I do not blame RAH at all. Good company, nice people, room for improvements. Thank you for the advice and caution.
 
Old 11-05-2013, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
I totally forgot about them I'd say that's a better alternative than what you've listed.
I have talked to commute air. They will not interview me with the RAH experience on my record.
 
Old 11-05-2013, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Chrisw
Ok boengsky. Half the people you are getting advice from here quit and went elsewhere but much of what they say is true. The Saab training is severely shortened. Less sim and less ground school time. Nearly half of what others did in the past on the same bird. That being said, it used to be about 10% of people that couldn't get through. Now with the stellar quality of candidate we attract I have heard rumors less than half get through. If you study hard and actually know how to fly IFR, do a V1 cut, ask for checklists, and remember to add power when you get an engine failure or shut one down due to fire, you will be good. It ain't rocket science. It truly is that simple. Something breaks and lights go on and bells go off, "give me the _____________ QRC/QRH please." Then sit back and watch the pilot monitoring flip some switches while Bob(autopilot) flies.


Thank you Chrisw. Thats what I am saying. I know the drill and how to play the game. This really is not rocket science at all. and if pilots that got hired with 400 hours can go through it I am confident that I with 1700 can lol. I will look at Air Wisconsin tho. someone messaged me and said their interview window reopened recently.
 
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