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Old 09-22-2013, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
Boy you sure do love the past and some sort of infatuation with me. 2 years is hardly recent and them giving me a shot was more a product of the time than them as a company. I'm not talking down to anyone I'm informing current and potential future applicants what this place really is all about. I'm not going to leave some thread when there is still work to be done and that's keeping people informed about the truth of Silver.
Yes - it certainly is an infatuation
I love seeing people basically pretend to change who they are, and were, and try to play high and mighty.
And yes - you are talking down to Chrisw and the other pilots with the 'just helping mgmt' type of rhetoric. Tell me Cruz how you would have (or did) answer those who tried to tell you the same thing.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:11 PM
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My answer is pretty short.... I left
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
My answer is pretty short.... I left
Agree - but you didn't leave when people told you the same things.
And these others re different from you how?

You didn't seem to concerned with being a tool of mgmt when you wrote these gems:

Post #14 It's a new paint scheme on an old plane and if you think this place is even the slightest like the old GIA than you are sadly mistaken. People that talk trash are the ones that aren't here and as someone that is; I think it's leaps and bounds better than it's former self.
Post #18 I couldn't tell you whats changed since I haven't been here before the buyout, but from what everyone is saying it's better*
Post #30 I don't have time to look up useless facts about the old GIA, but here is a difference the new Silver Airways gave all full time employees including us new hires a very nice little bonus.
Post #46 The new owners have quite the financial backing and I guess the saying happy employees makes loyal employees applies here.
Maybe you ought to be a little more understanding of the pilots left behind who are still just trying to do the same things you did Cruz.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:17 PM
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You're referencing posts nearly 2 years old do you think after the UA/AA merger that people will say o man this place is going to explode with growth and new planes etc. etc. possibly and then it could completely turn to garbage like Silver did in a matter of years. I wasn't about to leave when there was massive growth and a good outlook but when it all came to a screeching halt you betcha I'll bail.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:23 PM
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Besides I think I have every right to stick around here as I'm still waiting for Silver to pay me the 61 hours they owe me for August.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
Besides I think I have every right to stick around here as I'm still waiting for Silver to pay me the 61 hours they owe me for August.
Maybe it was prorated from your "nice little bonus"
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
Besides I think I have every right to stick around here as I'm still waiting for Silver to pay me the 61 hours they owe me for August.
I think you ought to get your mney too.
Just in the mean time climb on down from that high and mighty pedestal.
Yes - these are posts from 2 years ago. They show that you were no different than the fellow co-workers of your that you now accuse of just helping management. Tell us Cruz - do these posts look like someone who wasn't helping management or someone who jumped at the job even though he was already talking bad about the company to begin with before he was even done with the interview process?

From the Gulfstream thread:
Post #137 Half way done with interview..... Think of the worst company you've ever worked at..... It just became better than this place ever could be.
But you took the job

Post #155 Financially it's not feasible for me to finish the checkrides and then instruct. I make decent money now and while a job at any regional is a loss in pay compared to current salary it's a somewhat "stable" job. Plus I can just continue to build time in my own airplane which imo is great.
Yep you accepted their offer to help you get the experience you needed when you said that no other regional would hire you.

Post# 182 They dropped me off at the airport and all was done. Everyone was real nice and my only personal gripes are that we all seem to be misled about paying for training there and signing a contract. That is my only negative about them. I wouldn't mind working there minus all this contract garbage.
Post #184 Yes I am and I'm a man of my word in the end that's all I have, but them.... they haven't been honest with a single soul since the minute they called me/us from the get go. Maybe if they were truthful from the beginning I wouldn't have 5-10 different PM's from people wondering what they heck is going on. Not one person has told me a similar story.
They don't seem to impressive - but don't let that stop you. Helping management?

Post #190 First off GLA hasn't given me a yes or a no, but I'm probably not going to take it even if I am offered the position. If GIA didn't have a training contract then yes I would like to work for them more so than GLA and here is why. They pay more per hour on the same A/C and given where I live the commute is easier on myself and family.
Guess this is one of those things that changed

I'm not blaming you for taking the job. Look where it got you. All I'm suggesting is that you stop looking down your nose at your past co-workers and making it seem like they are part of some trouble that you managed to hold onto your high moral standards and avoid. They are you Cruz.
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:12 PM
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There is a lot being lost in translation through the Internet. If you were discussing this in person with me you'd realize I'm not looking down on people so much as I'm trying to have an open healthy discussion as to the reasons they should or shouldn't stay. Everyone can do whatever they please with their careers it's not mine to make or destroy. What I will publically come out and say is how the company is run and treats its employees. Every company has issues some more than others.
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
All you're concerned with is getting your upgrade and that's not going to happen with nobody coming in to replace you. That's pretty selfish to want others to wallow in the mire known as Silver just so you can upgrade get your time and get out. This is aviation though so selfishness is nothing new or surprising.
You may not notice but every time you post it is a personal attack against me. On the other hand I have not done so to you. You think I am selfish for wanting an upgrade? I have asked you to move on and leave us alone but your mission of belittling silver and its employees regardless of who it effects is selfish on your part. You selfishly care not about how your attitude affects your former coworkers. As USMCFlyer said, it is not what you say but how you say it that is the true problem here. Your quest hurts your friends and you don't care. You act to satisfy your own personal vendetta regardless of who it hurts. That is selfish as well. I don't see a flock of people still employed here backing you up. people who you respected saying,"leave cruz alone!" At the same time we actually agree. This place is broken and needs fixing. I have been nothing but respectful to you while you continue with personal attacks against me. If you won't leave us alone and insist on hurting your former co-workers try doing so with some couth. Lastly remember this industry is a small world. If you think your behavior here and now will not affect you in the future you should think again. You didn't burn the bridge you dropped a nuke on it. You never know where current silver guys will work. I say again, good luck with your current regional. I hope it all works out for you the way you want. Please leave us alone.
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:57 PM
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Not to start a highschool who's cooler than who but I've received quite a few texts supporting this funny subject and you're in the minority on this one. I don't have any problem with you and gladly would walk your stuff in at my place if you wanted me too. I don't have any problem helping out the majority at Silver in leaving if they want.
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