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Old 07-25-2013, 09:58 AM
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Hear this: There is no big announcement. There are no new codeshare agreements. Change will happen when it happens and the Company will make an announcement sans announcing that an announcement is coming. The rest of this year will be focused on stability and making the current operation efficient and effective. The 27th Saab will arrive on property in the November-December time range, according to PL. iPads will arrive when they arrive and even when they do, there will be a transition process where we will carry both the iPad and paper manuals/charts.

Settle in people, what you see is what you get. The work rules here are strong compared to other regionals, and the Company knows it. Possible pay increases and other pilot retention incentives will be addressed in a meeting between Company and Union officials in the third week of August. Hope for the best and plan for status quo.

That's all I got. Now back to your regularly scheduled speculation and wild guesses.
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:19 AM
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Lol "the work rules here are strong compared to other regionals" trolllolol
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by joethepilot
Lol "the work rules here are strong compared to other regionals" trolllolol
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Prove me wrong.
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Old 07-25-2013, 04:27 PM
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I expect our list to see a loss of about 10 pilots a month for the next few months. August is too long to wait. It needs to be today that they talk about retention.
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Old 07-25-2013, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrisw
I expect our list to see a loss of about 10 pilots a month for the next few months. August is too long to wait. It needs to be today that they talk about retention.
Is your union discussing with the pilot group on what should be discussed? Is your union seeking your input on possible options? Or maybe they know best?
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
Is your union discussing with the pilot group on what should be discussed? Is your union seeking your input on possible options? Or maybe they know best?

They know best... about 800 hrs worth of open time next month for FOs. This will be interesting and expensive.
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:59 PM
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I ll take 500% to be called in on a day off.
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainCarl
Hear this: There is no big announcement. There are no new codeshare agreements. Change will happen when it happens and the Company will make an announcement sans announcing that an announcement is coming. The rest of this year will be focused on stability and making the current operation efficient and effective. The 27th Saab will arrive on property in the November-December time range, according to PL. iPads will arrive when they arrive and even when they do, there will be a transition process where we will carry both the iPad and paper manuals/charts.

Settle in people, what you see is what you get. The work rules here are strong compared to other regionals, and the Company knows it. Possible pay increases and other pilot retention incentives will be addressed in a meeting between Company and Union officials in the third week of August. Hope for the best and plan for status quo.

That's all I got. Now back to your regularly scheduled speculation and wild guesses.
Originally Posted by CaptainCarl
Prove me wrong.
In general I agree, and believe you have hit the nail on the head. However, I have to disagree with your opinion that we have "strong work rules". Are the works rules as bad as some make them out to be, absolutely not.

However, our work rules in comparison to ALL other regional carriers would be in the bottom 50%. I am not going to explain the in's and out's of every regional contract, but I do have a fairly good understanding of most JCBA's floating around. With that being said, I will BS and rumor mill with anyone, makes for great after work conversation. But please, as I have preached and hoped other people in this business would do, make sure you read and understand before you make absolutes. The staffing bid alone at this company was a joke in regards to the lack of understanding on the pilot groups part. Our work rules are not horrible nor "bottom of the barrel". However, our JCBA is not strong in comparison to the rest of our industry. Thinking this only provides management with what they want, ammo!

Strive for better and NEVER accept less!

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Old 07-26-2013, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainCarl
Prove me wrong.
The contract we had at Comair 10+ years ago was better than anything today at any regional. Food for thought
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 200Driver
Strive for better and NEVER accept less!
Damn straight, 100% agree.
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