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04-16-2012, 04:23 PM
#1152
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
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In class the D.O said each month the mins are going to increase proportionately as we get closer to the 1500 hr rule. April class is 750 then in May it will go up then June it will go up etc. He also said that there will be one guy furloughed for a month till he turns 23 and a couple guys might be furloughed cause they won't have the time it appears.
04-16-2012, 04:37 PM
#1153
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 787
I can see them furloughing because of age, because you know how old that person will be on that magic date. I can't see how they'd furlough someone based on hours because there's no telling how much or little someone will fly. The new rule comes out in just over 16 months, which would be 75 hours of flying a month for someone with the lowest possible amount of time to hit 1500 by next August, which could be achievable. And if you meet the frozen mins (college or military), this mark wouldn't be a problem. Hopefully they move the eligibility date for these forward to actually allow for people to get their frozen ATP BEFORE they are required.
Last edited by sandrich; 04-16-2012 at 04:54 PM.
04-16-2012, 05:26 PM
#1154
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: Trying to land that first job.
Posts: 12
I can see them furloughing because of age, because you know how old that person will be on that magic date. I can't see how they'd furlough someone based on hours because there's no telling how much or little someone will fly. The new rule comes out in just over 16 months, which would be 75 hours of flying a month for someone with the lowest possible amount of time to hit 1500 by next August, which could be achievable. And if you meet the frozen mins (college or military), this mark wouldn't be a problem. Hopefully they move the eligibility date for these forward to actually allow for people to get their frozen ATP BEFORE they are required.
04-16-2012, 05:46 PM
#1155
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 787
I completely agree with the goal of the new regulation. At the same time, theres a sliver of me that doesn't agree with being required to hold an ATP to sit right seat in a 1900; a non-transport category aircraft that is also certified for single pilot. Its going to be hard finding qualified FOs to sit right seat after this rule when the minimums will be the same industrywide. They have no problem finding Captains, but who the hell is going to sit in the right seat? Hopefully they take some of the money they are dishing into the company and raise starting pay to make it worthwhile for people to remain in the right seat. Im anxious to see how the full transition to the Saab will affect the entire company.
04-16-2012, 08:36 PM
#1156
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 384
I completely agree with the goal of the new regulation. At the same time, theres a sliver of me that doesn't agree with being required to hold an ATP to sit right seat in a 1900; a non-transport category aircraft that is also certified for single pilot. Its going to be hard finding qualified FOs to sit right seat after this rule when the minimums will be the same industrywide. They have no problem finding Captains, but who the hell is going to sit in the right seat? Hopefully they take some of the money they are dishing into the company and raise starting pay to make it worthwhile for people to remain in the right seat. Im anxious to see how the full transition to the Saab will affect the entire company.
I now do not see how they can fill FO seats if they grow like they predict. Pay raises and a signing bounus will be the only way come mid summer. I suspect it will get really interesting by late summer for several smaller airlines.
04-16-2012, 08:57 PM
#1157
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 42
I've sent my resume for a DEC position. At this point I'm not really sure what to do, or if i even want to interview with them. Can some provide with accurate info on these questions (assuming current growth plans):
- Junior base for DECs? I'mguessing north, but which ones are the most junior, CLE, BIL?
- Time frame to expect to be on reserve? Months? Years?
- Time frame to hold a FL base?
- Junior base for DECs? I'mguessing north, but which ones are the most junior, CLE, BIL?
- Time frame to expect to be on reserve? Months? Years?
- Time frame to hold a FL base?
04-17-2012, 04:58 AM
#1159
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: Speed tape and prayers
Posts: 376
04-17-2012, 05:24 AM
#1160
Underpaid...
Joined APC: Nov 2010
Position: French-Canadian
Posts: 2,101
You mean the Valujet folks who became AirTran? And were bought by Southwest, you know that regional airline who became the model for LCC and has their highest wages and some of the best work rules in the industry!
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