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Old 05-12-2024, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ProfessionalSN
Yeah, I'm leaning towards BS, or I don't think you ever go home to post those numbers.

Between 76 day line, VAWD/VED and FDP I don’t think this is at all unrealistic. Isn’t the average for year one FO on 7/7 line for the 2020 rates something $124k…. Sure, they are gone a lot, but it’s not like this isn’t possible.
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Old 05-12-2024, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ProfessionalSN
Yeah, I'm leaning towards BS, or I don't think you ever go home to post those numbers.
The only thing that provides any doubt to me is that this pilot is on the XLS. There aren't all that many extended day opportunities in that fleet and they break a lot to limit FDP for most. That said, it is definitely possible and quite probable for those in the busier fleets that are willing to grind. We are hiring a lot of young pilots that don't have families yet and are looking at a mountain of flight school debt and how much they will need to save to ever buy a house. That is some good motivation to stay on the road as much as possible.
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Old 05-12-2024, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ProfessionalSN
Yeah, I'm leaning towards BS, or I don't think you ever go home to post those numbers.
I work a lot, yes. 8/6 schedule with a few extended days.
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Old 05-12-2024, 07:55 PM
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The only thing that provides any doubt to me is that this pilot is on the XLS. There aren't all that many extended day opportunities in that fleet and they break a lot to limit FDP for most. That said, it is definitely possible and quite probable for those in the busier fleets that are willing to grind. We are hiring a lot of young pilots that don't have families yet and are looking at a mountain of flight school debt and how much they will need to save to ever buy a house. That is some good motivation to stay on the road as much as possible.
Absolutely untrue regarding VAWD opportunities. The XLS is actually a honey hole for VAWD opportunities for the right seat. The right seat in this plane is grossly understaffed (although getting better) and therefore there is a healthy amount of VAWD days available (approx. 20 days per bid posting). In my 9 tours this year, my lowest tour was 27 hours flown and my highest was 42.3 hours flown. I am on an 8/6. Not exactly bad on FDP.
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Old 05-13-2024, 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by swabjh
Absolutely untrue regarding VAWD opportunities. The XLS is actually a honey hole for VAWD opportunities for the right seat. The right seat in this plane is grossly understaffed (although getting better) and therefore there is a healthy amount of VAWD days available (approx. 20 days per bid posting). In my 9 tours this year, my lowest tour was 27 hours flown and my highest was 42.3 hours flown. I am on an 8/6. Not exactly bad on FDP.
And this is where luck plays into it. A year ago the XLS was grossly overstaffed, there were zero extended days available, and FOs were sitting around hotels the entire week.

Totally awesome that you can make that kind of money right now, and obviously technically possible. However, I would strongly suggest that nobody coming to Netjets plan to make that kind of money year 1.
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Old 05-13-2024, 09:12 AM
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And this is where luck plays into it. A year ago the XLS was grossly overstaffed, there were zero extended days available, and FOs were sitting around hotels the entire week.

Totally awesome that you can make that kind of money right now, and obviously technically possible. However, I would strongly suggest that nobody coming to Netjets plan to make that kind of money year 1.
I absolutely agree. No one should plan on making that much money. A lot of luck plays into it for sure.
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Old 05-13-2024, 10:07 AM
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I am a first year FO that has been on property since November 2023. I am on track to make $185,000 this year (all in including everything but 401K match) on the XLS. Note that this number is based off of paychecks received before the new contract has been ratified. We have yet to receive a paycheck with the new salary and FDP numbers (it’ll be in our next one). I assume I’ll clear more than $185,000 due to this raise.
First year FO hired 2 months before you, haven't even seen the inside of the Jet. I'll be lucky to break 100k after 12 months, and that's only if I ever get to do IOE. What's funny is I was really hoping I wouldn't get the XLS due to what I read on here about low FDP, but looks like you got the better deal. Not that either of us had any control of the situation, luck plays a huge part of pay here especially 1st year.
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Old 05-13-2024, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hdgbug
And this is where luck plays into it. A year ago the XLS was grossly overstaffed, there were zero extended days available, and FOs were sitting around hotels the entire week.

Totally awesome that you can make that kind of money right now, and obviously technically possible. However, I would strongly suggest that nobody coming to Netjets plan to make that kind of money year 1.
XLS has something like 135 SIC a year ago. Got down to ~30 SIC, and now maybe 60 range? Either way, working out for the SIC’s on that fleet who want extended days.
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Old 05-13-2024, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Treepilot
First year FO hired 2 months before you, haven't even seen the inside of the Jet. I'll be lucky to break 100k after 12 months, and that's only if I ever get to do IOE. What's funny is I was really hoping I wouldn't get the XLS due to what I read on here about low FDP, but looks like you got the better deal. Not that either of us had any control of the situation, luck plays a huge part of pay here especially 1st year.
Are you in the Phenom too?
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