GeeWizDriver

Praetors will start arriving early in the new year and the initial cadre will ramp up late summer into the fall. The Ass-end is more than a year out. Still not certified even though it's just an addition to the XL type certificate.

Texasfly

Any idea on the production rate for either airframe? I’ve heard wild numbers like NetJets plans to keep hiring 800 a year for the next few years… could they take 100 jets a year? That’s worth 600 pilots I suppose. Add in ~200 pilots for attrition

hawkerpilot05

Considering the April Senirity list was just published and we hired 28 pilots and lost 26 for a net gain of 2, we should be hiring for some time.

GeeWizDriver

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My crystal ball is pretty cloudy. All I know is what they tell us most recently..

MissedApproach1

A couple of hiring questions: 1) Will NetJets send and pay for your ATP/CTP? In the application it says, "ATP written completed prior to start of Indoctrination Training," but is vague on if that means it is your responsibility or not. 2) Is the 50 hours of Multi-Egine time like the regionals, which allow you to come in with 25 and earn the next 25 during sim training? Or do you need the full 50 to get hired? Thanks.

kaputt

No they will not pay for it. You must complete it on your own before showing up for indoc (if hired).

You need the full 50 hours of multi.

El Pilot

Currently doing 121 cargo in a turboprop, but considering NJ to get some jet time and career advancement.
What are the FO non-flying duties? I will probably work more doing non flying stuff is that true?
I'm usually a slam-clicker, is NJ a good fit for those types or do you have to smile and engage all the time.

Is it worth it to apply at NJ if you want to hustle and get some jet time before going to a legacy? serious questions.

hdgbug

I'll speak to the first few questions and let someone else give the career advise!

Outside of flying, FO's are generally responsible for preparation of the inside of the aircraft. You will set up/preflight the cockpit, and make sure the cabin in ready. Preparing the cabin can include stocking snacks, refreshing coffee/ice, wiping down surfaces, vacuuming, putting away catering, general cleaning, etc. That being said you are a team and you are both responsible for both the flight and aircraft. When I am SIC, I am still looking at the release, weather, etc both to back up the PIC as well as to be prepared for the flight. When I am PIC, if I have my tasks done I am jumping in to help out the SIC with whatever they need. You will probably have more non-flying tasks to do at Netjets than you likely have now. (Small/Mid Cabins) On occasion the cabin in a left in a condition that it takes 15-30 minutes to clean/stock if I am doing it by myself. However, those are probably sub-5% of the flights. Usually the cabin is picked up in a few minutes. I personally do not find the non-flying tasks as a major negative to the job, however, you definitely need to be okay doing them if you come to Netjets. You will not make any friends if you skirt your responsibilities and leave them for the other guy.

There are all kinds of guys on overnights here. I've flown with those who would be considered slam-clickers all the way to those who want to meet up every minute of every day. I've been known to have slam-click tendencies, especially at the end of a long day and dependent on who I am flying with. Most guys don't care or at least don't say anything, however there are some that will give you a hard time. Most seem to be good natured, but you get the few that seem to take offense if you skip dinner or breakfast with them. On the non-large cabin fleets extended overnights (more than just a rest period) are the exception, not the norm. So it's not like you are ditching your partner for 24+ hours on an overnight if you skip dinner after getting to the hotel.

AirBear

I 2nd what hdgbug said about overnights. Rarely do you see more than 12 hours, and even then they'll frequently put you on hotel standby with 30 minutes to leave the hotel. Kind of like the old Navy joke "join the Navy and see the world thru a porthole" only at NJA it's "fly for NJA and see the world thru your hotel room window". Usually we had enough leftover crew food that we just ate that in our rooms.

Texasfly

Plenty of former cargo pilots coming from places like Ameriflight here. Last two years were not normal…. Historically speaking, if you want to go to a legacy, plan on a pit stop at a 121 shop. Regionals, ACMI, ULCC