500RVR

Thanks for the update and I sincerely wish you guys all the best. My friend in his early 60’s got a CJO with Flex Jet and has an interview with NJ, just trying to figure which is best provided he gets hired at NJ.

Blueridger

umm no it's not. It's complete garbage. The company is under zero obligation to negotiate right now and for many more years, yet they are and keep asking to bring us back to the table. So how exactly is the NJA pilot group powerless and castrated? We knew market forces would force them back to the table long before the contract expired.

MinRest

The company is under no legal obligation you give you a single thing, which is why NJASAP is spending all its efforts picketing irrelevant sporting events to pretend like they are making meaningful change. You and your fellow pilots gave up all the leverage you had by throwing Section 6 to the wind. It worked for a bit in some ways but to see the pilot group outraged at how little leverage you have is laughable. Management wants you to accept whatever they tell you they are willing to give because that is exactly what the pilot group has accepted for the last several years. The union can **** and moan all they want, but there is still zero leverage the pilot group or the union has right now as your contract isn't amendable. The market holds all the leverage, NJASAP and the pilot group hold zero leverage. Literally, nothing you have done has moved the needle and pressured management. The only thing pressuring management is attrition and the ability to hire, and evidence shows they are okay with both of those things for the time being.

If you think management keeps begging you back to the table like you hold all the face cards, you are lying to yourself and everyone else within earshot of your voice.

UTR69

After all of the hotel points donated.....miles walked in circles....airline points donated...etc etc...

NADA........

TeamSasquatch

That only proves what we already know…. Hotel points and airline miles really aren’t worth anything. You could go to a fractional to get points, you could go to an airline to paid.

UTR69

....and you could go to Walmart and have more leverage.

JMO127

What's the progress on ML's latest socialistic proposal to take 90% of VFD, VAWD, and FDP worked and spread the wealth to the pilot group? Seems about right, over promise and under deliver and blame the membership for the short comings. Sure. Seems legit. Then his majesty the king said he was only getting started? Yikes. Time for new leadership.

Swedepilut

Wouldn't surprise me. He also knows there is nothing he can do about it.

Just throwing it out there for the membership to get all wound up on.

Quick Quick Look over here not over there.

727C47

I come back through here every couple of weeks just to observe, and note the dysfunction on these boards, but seeing you bloviating about your ex pilot group yet again , forgive me for dipping my oar in,I'm sorry but you are one" interesting " dude, enjoy Alaska , enjoy your family, your acro, whatever , I think we will be just fine as a pilot group,please get a life,but thank you for your constant concern 😂 ok I'm done, see you in few more months 😎

GeeWizDriver

Oh good gravy. You people really don't have any critical thinking skills, do you? Even if it could happen, the idea is to economically discourage people from picking up extended days. No extended days, wheels come off the wagon almost instantly and company is begging at the door for a deal. Sheesh. It's not that hard.

But it was never a serious proposal. It was designed to make people think just a LITTLE, TINY BIT harder about the choices they're making. The fact that ML could make so many intellectual lightweights lose their mind was just an amusing byproduct.