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Old 07-05-2017, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
SWA is hiring 700+ per year but retiring 200-400 per year according to that list. How does that impact upgrade at SWA?
Growth creates upgrade opportunities...
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlife
Although not projected, NetJets is going to start publishing mandatory retirements in the paper under obituaries...
Funny thanks for that laugh!!
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Old 07-05-2017, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AntiPeter
when I compare averages it takes a good 10 years to break even for a NJA captain that wants to move on. Those first couple years anywhere are likely to hurt with lost income and lost quality of life.

Not at UPS...

Second Year pay:

Average Total Pay = $200,000 effective 9/1/17
Average MPP contribution = $22,000
Delayed A plan Compensation per year of service = $67,000

Total compensation = $287,000

I didn't make 200,000 after 12 years as a captain when I left. So I will give myself a *PAY RAISE* in 6 months.


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Old 07-06-2017, 04:00 AM
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That's wonderful that UPS offers such high compensation, but a man with my sleep habits could never do it.

Even after a 1 red eye I'm all jammed up and ****ed all week long.
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Old 07-06-2017, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AntiPeter
That's wonderful that UPS offers such high compensation, but a man with my sleep habits could never do it.

Even after a 1 red eye I'm all jammed up and ****ed all week long.
you get more circadian swaps at NetJets than probably any other airline (depending on fleet)
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Old 07-06-2017, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by AntiPeter
That's wonderful that UPS offers such high compensation, but a man with my sleep habits could never do it.

Even after a 1 red eye I'm all jammed up and ****ed all week long.
Yea I’m sure UPS pilots neeeeeever take turns napping on a long red eye....
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Old 07-06-2017, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO
you get more circadian swaps at NetJets than probably any other airline (depending on fleet)
I'm afraid Atlas takes the taco in that department.
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Old 07-06-2017, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiplash6
I'm afraid Atlas takes the taco in that department.
probably right. but at least most people don't view Atlas as a career destination
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Old 07-06-2017, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO
probably right. but at least most people don't view Atlas as a career destination
It should probably very similar to how the pilot group views NetJets. Most career NJA pilots will tell you that it’s not a career job lol. Everyone I know at Atlas is chillin until the legacies or top cargo jobs call but I’m sure there is a small percentage that thinks Atlas is the most amazing job on the planet.
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Old 07-06-2017, 06:11 PM
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I get it, but look at where you can be based with NetJets. San Louis Obispo, Sun Valley Idaho etc. I'll spare you the response that you couldn't afford to live there on a NetJets salary but you get my point. Some things are worth more than money. Commuting sucks donkey balls by epic proportions. Decent pay, great schedule, excellent health insurance and live where I want? Sign me up. Sure it would be cool to fly heavy metal all over the world for big bucks but that doesn't put a bulge in my trousers.
Horses for courses. Each to their own I guess.
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