Flyfalcons

We need to get to the point of seniority being worth something with regard to aircraft type, before we look beyond (training week, sim slot, etc).

FLYLOW22

Would be awesome.

Bid for slot would be a win win


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Jetlife

That isn't the point. He can bid his schedule at UPS and fly the trips his seniority can hold. What seniority gets at a NetJets is irrelevant to him, he doesn't work there anymore. I know both UPS pilots and FedEx pilots who fly mostly day trips, not every freight or cargo pilot only flies on the backside of the clock all the time. And if their seniority can hold it, they can hold it.

Seniority doesn't get you as much at NetJets because of the way the scheduling system is designed, and that's the way it is.

G550Guy

Because NetJets never flies at night, flips your body clock twice in one week... or gives you 14 hours rest after crossing the Atlantic and sends you back to TEB. :smirk

typed as I enjoy my 36 hour layover in EDDK.



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727C47

Gentlemen, gentlemen, try to get along : ), for the record I'm a freight dog at heart , God bless you G550 guy, if I ever return to 121 it will be cargo not pax, peace, love , and many 1/7's to you , Cheers out !!!

G550Guy

Bro... UPS would love to have a guy like you. They have hired 8 of us so far. Myself and my training partner were the first ones... the company realizes NJ pilots are of superior quality and attitude, and it is paying off, they are interviewing more every month. PM me... you should at least run the numbers and look into it. You have the experience and attitude they are looking for.



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GeeWizDriver

C'mon amigo...I KNOW you really miss the Hazmat, 14/10's and the ditz fom Seattle collecting your empty Fiji bottles!


Look, NetJets ain't for everybody. But for some folks, it actually works.

I've learned how to deal with silliness from the brain trust in CMH (WAIT until you've given them enough time to realize the idiocy, THEN call if you still have to fix it). And I've learned to care a little less....

I actually LIKE the 7-7. It allows me to work a second job that I love (it sure ain't for the money) that I could never do if I worked airline patterns. And short of a medical or military leave, NONE of the airline pilots I know can take 35 straight days off like I'll be doing starting next Wednesday.

I LOVE the two airplanes I fly and hope to milk this fleet to retirement (no later than 65 BTW).

And even though we'd all like to make more money, I earn enough to support myself and my better half in a manner well beyond the ability of most Americans. The great folks I work with at the other job bust their humps for $12-21 an hour, 22-26 days a month and are always smiling, laughing, and joking. That's a routine reality check for me.

For me, the toughest part about working at NJ is watching hard-working FO's languish while their employer (and their union, frankly) diddles away their career future. If I were an FO at NJ, my atttitude about the job would be completely different and I probably would be looking HARD for the ejection handle.

But Jetlife seems to want to apply HIS bad experience at NJ to EVERYBODY and makes no allowance for the fact that some people actually LIKE the gig.

BoilerUP

I'll get 28 days off by using two weeks of vacation starting late May. I potentially could have had six consecutive weeks off, on a domestic fleet, had I bid appropriately this bid (I needed certain days off) and can easily have 35 days off if I bid appropriately next bid.

I've been here less than 3 years.

Not trying to weenie-measure, but rather offer perspective as to what is available at certain airlines depending on work rules.

BuckeyeFO

THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING. This message board is primarily for people who are looking for a new job. The union message board is for current employees of Netjets.

So when people ask questions of NetJets - it is not about life as a captain bc they aren't hiring them. They are hiring people to sit in the right seat for 20 years. Jetlife has never said that captains don't have it good, he's always talked about HIS situation and pushed back against the FlyLows ridiculous assertions about NJA is the best job around and every airline is teetering on collapse.

A million times over - don't come to Netjets and think you'll ever be more than an FO.
Go to a regional, go to an LCC, try for a Major.
For the vast majority of professional pilots - you'll have a better career.

ZapBrannigan

Yup. I can easily get 22+ days off per week of vacation. I'm in year three. Trips that touch vacation drop with partial pay. No PBS at SW.

Last fall I had two weeks of vacation separated by a week. As a result I was able to take off most of October and the first week and a half of November.


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