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Old 07-25-2013, 07:37 AM
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Smedley was running for Senate and needed a hook. He lost.
That was a quote he made in the Socialist newspaper Common Sense in 1935, three years after he lost the Republican primary in Pennsylvania.

It was approximately the same time-frame that he wrote his book War is a Racket
and told the VFW in Denver: "Soldiers never leave the country except to protect the moneyed interests."

He wasn't talking about the tax payers.

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Originally Posted by N2264J
That was a quote he made in the Socialist newspaper Common Sense in 1935, three years after he lost the Republican primary in Pennsylvania.

It was approximately the same time-frame that he wrote his book War is a Racket
and told the VFW in Denver: "Soldiers never leave the country except to protect the moneyed interests."

He wasn't talking about the tax payers.

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Nice dream, but the last century of warfare has largely been based on two goals-stopping insane political leaders and protecting human rights. Among those rights are economic freedom and the freedom to go about your business without getting shot.

Wars are real economic killers and in balance no country in the last century has made any profit by going to war, the cost has been staggering in blood and treasure. Wars have in fact ruined far more countries than they have saved.

We are no exception to this outcome.
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That 17 Trillion dollar debt will most likely get cut in half once the economy starts from the middle outwards.
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Old 07-26-2013, 06:21 PM
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Funny.

Oh how I wish the debt was just 17 trillion.

Add 125 trillion to the 17 trillion for the real number and then understand the 125 trillion is just the present value stated-the number in reality is much larger. Accounting rules and methods are important.


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Nice dream, but the last century of warfare has largely been based on two goals-stopping insane political leaders and protecting human rights.
Admit it - you've never read War is a Racket. You have no idea of who Smedley Butler
was or what he did.

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I would guess that many of you don't know who Smedley Butler was or what he said in a time when a real general spoke his mind: War Is A Racket, by Major General Smedley Butler, 1935
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Originally Posted by N2264J
Admit it - you've never read War is a Racket. You have no idea of who Smedley Butler
was or what he did.
Actually son, I was a Marine Corps officer and began learning about Smedley when your mother was still changing your diapers.

He was a great officer, but not the first or last to be turned sour by the game he played afterwards.

Admit it, you really don't know anything about war or the military.
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Originally Posted by jungle
Actually son, I was a Marine Corps officer and began learning about Smedley when your mother was still changing your diapers.

He was a great officer, but not the first or last to be turned sour by the game he played afterwards.

Admit it, you really don't know anything about war or the military.
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Originally Posted by JetRage
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(I'm enjoying this dialogue fellows)
N2264J has an interesting history here, god bless his little heart.

After speaking at length on a subject he knows nothing about he often changes the subject to something he knows even less about, we all enjoy the comic relief.
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Originally Posted by jungle
N2264J has an interesting history here, god bless his little heart.

After speaking at length on a subject he knows nothing about he often changes the subject to something he knows even less about, we all enjoy the comic relief.
+125 Trillion !!!
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Actually son, I was a Marine Corps officer and began learning about Smedley when your mother was still changing your diapers.
You haven't answered the question - have you read his book?

In post #72, you pivot to wars are "economic killers" for countries* and no country
has made a profit by going to war but you would know that wasn't the point Butler
was making if you had read his book.

You seem to hold General Butler in high esteem until you throw him under the bus
when it suits you political derangement.

*In fact, your side keeps telling us that World War II alone brought us out of the
great depression so as not to give the New Deal any credit at all for the recovery.

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