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Old 08-15-2011, 04:37 PM
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I am a new pilot an a new owner of a Bonanza A36. I am talking to a few professional pilots about flying right seat with me to build hours over the next year until I am qualified to fly the Bo myself. I am out of the Atlanta area and am looking for someone who can flight right seat, let me log dual time and teach me to be a safe pilot myself. My typical mission is 1-2 day trips and I have a few great candidates, however I am not familiar with the 'market' expenses for contract instruction/piloting of my own A/C and am interested to see what day/hourly rates + expenses would be in my situation. Given my own situation I am looking for someone with extensive Bonanza, Baron and King Air experience as I expect that to be my own transition path over the next 10 years.

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Old 08-15-2011, 05:52 PM
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You are approaching it from the wrong angle. Place an ad for "Free Flight Time" looking for a CFII who is wanting to build dual in my Bonanza instructing me.

Place the ad in Trade-a-Plane and approach flight schools. I bet you will get calls. Outside of that I have seen rates range from $20 to 100 an hour if you want to pay for it.

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Old 08-15-2011, 06:10 PM
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Thank you for the response. I am looking for a professional with serious experience who will keep me and my family safe, not a CFI looking to build hours, and I am willing to pay for it (market rate).
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Ditto on what Sky said. I have a bunch of hours in the twin engine version of your plane that I owned, the Beech Baron. I'd be happy to fly with you (for free), but we're about 6 inches apart (on a map of the USA that is 9 inches wide).

I had to have a fly along guy for my first 25 hours (for insurance and to keep me alive!), and we flew from Miami to San Diego together. I didn't pay him much, like $500 for the whole time, plus hotels / meals. That was about 10 years ago, though.

One thing is a given in the pilot world.... most pilots are cheap!!!
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Originally Posted by RouDaddy
Thank you for the response. I am looking for a professional with serious experience who will keep me and my family safe, not a CFI looking to build hours, and I am willing to pay for it (market rate).

Go to the American Bonanza Society to find Beech experts, or "Beech Talk". I guarantee you'll find a helpful, friendly fellow pilot who is an expert in your machine.

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Old 08-15-2011, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyWilliams
Go to the American Bonanza Society to find Beech experts, or "Beech Talk". I guarantee you'll find a helpful, friendly fellow pilot who is an expert in your machine.

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Thanks Tony!
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Old 08-24-2011, 05:21 PM
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Used to fly a B36TC and was paid $200 day. You should pay whoever you choose. We all have to make a living.
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
You are approaching it from the wrong angle. Place an ad for "Free Flight Time" looking for a CFII who is wanting to build dual in my Bonanza instructing me.

Place the ad in Trade-a-Plane and approach flight schools. I bet you will get calls. Outside of that I have seen rates range from $20 to 100 an hour if you want to pay for it.

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Ditto on what Sky said. I have a bunch of hours in the twin engine version of your plane that I owned, the Beech Baron. I'd be happy to fly with you (for free), but we're about 6 inches apart (on a map of the USA that is 9 inches wide).

I had to have a fly along guy for my first 25 hours (for insurance and to keep me alive!), and we flew from Miami to San Diego together. I didn't pay him much, like $500 for the whole time, plus hotels / meals. That was about 10 years ago, though.

One thing is a given in the pilot world.... most pilots are cheap!!!
Why would you suggest he find guys to fly with him for free to build time? If you are a CFI, then you are giving poor guidance.

RouDaddy, find a good CFI from BPPP and don't look back. Paying one of them to guide you along will help keep you on top of the safety game.
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It's been a while since I did any contract work, but when I first read your post the number $200/day plus all expenses came to mind. That said, I never gave dual instruction doing it - which incurs and additional liability, I'd probably think about adding on an additional charge to cover CFI liability insurance. As a professional pilot, you're not just paying for what I'm doing for you, you're also paying for other work (possibly higher paying) that I could be doing during that same time.

I say this very sincerely - THANK YOU. Thank you for recognizing the value of an experienced professional aviator, and being willing to pay for that experience to ensure your and your family's safety. I believe you are a wise individual to have that perspective.

Enjoy the Bonanza - it's a beautiful machine, just be aware it has a large enough cabin to lead you into trouble with the gross weight and/or CG.
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...but when I first read your post the number $200/day plus all expenses
Same as Jim Rockford, 1974-1980.

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