Mil to ATP under the new system
#51
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#53
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2016
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I am an AD Air Force O-4. Background is A10s with an exchange flying F18s for 3 years. This is exactly what I have done under the "new" rules:
1. Having a PPL prior to pilot training and currently a SEFE/Instructor in the A10.
2. Took the mil comp test with sheppardair as my prep. Follow all the details they provide on their website and then take your test. Depending on the testing center it will be free (if offered on base) or $165 at a PSI testing center. With this test, your current Form8 and flight physical you will get your Commercial Multi Engine and Instrument rating. For me I had a centerline thrust limitation but that was no biggie...cleared it up on my ATP checkride.
3. I then studied and took the CFI test (again using sheppard air). Again I paid another $165 for the test.
4. With both original test scores in hand (DO NOT LOOSE THE ORIGINALS!!!), my Form8's and my IACRA (see sheppard air for help with THESE) I went to an FAA DPE to submit my paperwork and have him add my quals.
After taking simply two tests i went from a basic PPL to: Commercial Multi Engine/ IFR/CFI/CFII/MEI (BALLER!!!).
5. Then came the [email protected] took the CTP course offered by Aerostar in Fort Lauderdale. It is a 6 day course (4day academics/2day sims). I did use my GI bill to pay for this course ($4800). When you graduate from this god awful waste of a money course DO NOT LOOSE YOUR CERTIFICATE. This is like gold!!!! Never give away your original certificate no matter what they say. Always a copy.
6.You then study for the ATP practical test (again using sheppard air). You must submit your CTP certificate to your testing center the day prior to taking the test so they can send it to the FAA and validate that you have taken the course. Then, take the test and you are on the home stretch.
7. Now find a place to do your ATP practical. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND SANDERS AVIATION. His has done hundreds, maybe thousands of military ATP check rides. He gets us/you and you will pass.
Once you are done with the practical you will then be complete!!! Full up ATP/CFI/CFII/MEI.
There are lots of little details and extra gouge along the way but that is the whole process in as simple a format as I can explain.
Did I mention to never give away your original CTP certificate?!
Thunder!!! PM me for any questions. Happy to help.
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1. Having a PPL prior to pilot training and currently a SEFE/Instructor in the A10.
2. Took the mil comp test with sheppardair as my prep. Follow all the details they provide on their website and then take your test. Depending on the testing center it will be free (if offered on base) or $165 at a PSI testing center. With this test, your current Form8 and flight physical you will get your Commercial Multi Engine and Instrument rating. For me I had a centerline thrust limitation but that was no biggie...cleared it up on my ATP checkride.
3. I then studied and took the CFI test (again using sheppard air). Again I paid another $165 for the test.
4. With both original test scores in hand (DO NOT LOOSE THE ORIGINALS!!!), my Form8's and my IACRA (see sheppard air for help with THESE) I went to an FAA DPE to submit my paperwork and have him add my quals.
After taking simply two tests i went from a basic PPL to: Commercial Multi Engine/ IFR/CFI/CFII/MEI (BALLER!!!).
5. Then came the [email protected] took the CTP course offered by Aerostar in Fort Lauderdale. It is a 6 day course (4day academics/2day sims). I did use my GI bill to pay for this course ($4800). When you graduate from this god awful waste of a money course DO NOT LOOSE YOUR CERTIFICATE. This is like gold!!!! Never give away your original certificate no matter what they say. Always a copy.
6.You then study for the ATP practical test (again using sheppard air). You must submit your CTP certificate to your testing center the day prior to taking the test so they can send it to the FAA and validate that you have taken the course. Then, take the test and you are on the home stretch.
7. Now find a place to do your ATP practical. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND SANDERS AVIATION. His has done hundreds, maybe thousands of military ATP check rides. He gets us/you and you will pass.
Once you are done with the practical you will then be complete!!! Full up ATP/CFI/CFII/MEI.
There are lots of little details and extra gouge along the way but that is the whole process in as simple a format as I can explain.
Did I mention to never give away your original CTP certificate?!
Thunder!!! PM me for any questions. Happy to help.
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#55
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 7
How does using your Post 9/11 GI Bill impact it's future value? Would the future beneficiary no longer be eligible for Yellow Ribbon?
Has anyone done the CTP and knocked out their ATP practical at the same sight? Thoughts?
There are a lot of comments regarding "military friendly" training centers. The CTP and ATP written seem pretty black and white. Does this guidance apply mostly to the practical?
Has anyone done the CTP and knocked out their ATP practical at the same sight? Thoughts?
There are a lot of comments regarding "military friendly" training centers. The CTP and ATP written seem pretty black and white. Does this guidance apply mostly to the practical?
#56
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 376
Yes - Some places know their local DPE well enough that the check ride is a non-event and will tailor their flight training program to get you through that event and nothing more. IE - don't expect to pass a MEI add-on if all you pay for is the ATP.
Mil pilots going through the local school need somewhere between 3-4 flights max before taking the check. Some have done it in as little as two. Hardest part seems to be the oral part of the brief because most mil guys don't usually have lots of light piston twin engine time. Something about prop governors, carb ice, mixture knobs and speeder springs - all things that (most) mil-only pilots have never been exposed to. Haven't heard of any pink sheets yet - but this part definitely is the most nerve racking.
Mil pilots going through the local school need somewhere between 3-4 flights max before taking the check. Some have done it in as little as two. Hardest part seems to be the oral part of the brief because most mil guys don't usually have lots of light piston twin engine time. Something about prop governors, carb ice, mixture knobs and speeder springs - all things that (most) mil-only pilots have never been exposed to. Haven't heard of any pink sheets yet - but this part definitely is the most nerve racking.
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