HoursHore

When do your 15 points kick in for a good year, and are they prorated?

Really just want to know that If you're in your last year with 35 points and put your retirement date after your R/r date will you get all 15 and thus a good year?

Thanks

BDGERJMN

They (membership points) are prorated

See pg 10, enclosure 3

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/c...df/121507p.pdf

rickair7777

So your retirement date is after your anniversary date? In that case, yes you'll get 15 and a good year.

But the good year is meaningless for retirement pay purposes...they only count for retirement eligibility, once you get 20 you don't need any more.

The points continue to add up and contribute to your multiplier, this increasing retirement pay.

As you as you hold a commission (TR/SELRES or IRR) your years of federal service accumulates, increasing your base pay and retirement rate.

HoursHore

I'm in my 20th. I've set my retirement after my anniversary. Just trying to figure when I can stop showing up.

rickair7777

From a federal law standpoint..once you earn 35 points, you can stop...the last 15 will be gratis and should be credited after your anniversary.

But if you're cutting it down to the wire, I would do a couple things before you burn any bridges...

1) Audit your points history and make darn sure you have 20 good years.

2) Make sure those last 35 points are 100% irrefutable...if it were me I'd want paid drills with LES's, not non-pay points. Don't want any after-the-fact confusion about whether any points were legit.

3) The navy will audit your years/points shortly after you hit 20 and send you a Notice of Eligibility with a summary...unless you actually committed fraud, that NOE is irreversible even if they discover later that somebody screwed up your points count. I'd be inclined to wait until you get the NOE (they should not even allow you to officially retire without it).


The risk you run by not showing up is unsat attendence...that could be grounds for the navy to ADSEP you. If that was processed prior to your anniversary you might lose the retirement (I suspect they'd just let you retire, but legally they don't have to if you stop coming to work).

If you get into an unsat situation and then find out later that the audit didn't go well (such as they disallowed some of your past points and took away a good year that you needed), they might not let you come back to drill status for another year.

HoursHore

thx. I'm AFRC, tho prior navy. Although I had to endure a lobotomy to fly AF, I'm glad I went AFRC vice selres. The stories I've heard from my navy brethren are not pretty.

Also thanks for the info. Pretty sure I'm good to depart the fix.

galaxy flyer

True story, I had a guy call me up wanting me to sign 40A (UTA drill pay period) for about 12 years earlier. I couldn't do it, but asked why. He missed having 20 good years by that one drill weekend all those years before. Oops, no retirement.

GF

Slim11

Retired ARNG here. To be safe, continue going to drills until retirement orders are in hand.

I submitted my retirement request upon receipt of my 20-year letter. The date on the request was 7 Sep 01. I'm certain the date of the request was the reason I was allowed to retire. The 20-year letter actually arrived shortly before my 20-years-of-service date.

I attended four more paid drills before the orders were cut. There was one year where I had service in the ANG, USAFRes unassigned officer pool and the ARNG. It took several attempts to get all the points combined to get a good year out of it. Since you said you were prior service Navy, you might have a similar situation. I hope you don't.