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Old 01-11-2014, 08:21 AM
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Just to be clear, it was NOT an MC-12..it was an Army C-12.
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Old 01-11-2014, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Not everything in the world has something to do with (or lack thereof) USAF leadership.
That is as bad as the politicians always trying to push 'talking points' of their agendas during interviews that have nothing to do with the question.
The fact of the matter is that AF leaders have their hands on pretty much every mishap. From putting in place and willfully allowing policies that constantly put younger and lesser experienced crews in the cockpit. Careerist commanders don't want to hear things that may make them look bad. There was an MC-130 mishap in Europe years ago. One of the youngest crews I have ever seen, and AFSOC to boot. AF leadership put in place a VSP policy that saw a third of my FTU EP peers get paid six figures to separate only to implement a rated recall program less that two years later.

So tell me again about all of your experience in the AF serving under these leaders?

You will notice I have never made ASSumptions about USMC ops, as that would make me look rather silly.

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Old 01-11-2014, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 130drvr
The fact of the matter is that AF leaders have their hands on pretty much every mishap. From putting in place and willfully allowing policies that constantly put younger and lesser experienced crews in the cockpit. Careerist commanders don't want to hear things that may make them look bad. There was an MC-130 mishap in Europe years ago. One of the youngest crews I have ever seen, and AFSOC to boot. AF leadership put in place a VSP policy that saw a third of my FTU EP peers get paid six figures to separate only to implement a rated recall program less that two years later.

So tell me again about all of your experience in the AF serving under these leaders?

You will notice I have never made ASSumptions about USMC ops, as that would make me look rather silly.

And you have the facts that USAF leadership was somehow involved in this mishap.
Please share.

Feel free to post my quote where I said anything about my serving under USAF leadership in recent history.
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Old 01-11-2014, 03:40 PM
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semantics here but i think they are RC-12s....they are not based on the 350 like the AF MC-12. We are about to start flying mixed crews with AF/Army in the MC-12 very soon.
The Army does have the 350's as well as the 200's. I have buddies currently flying both versions.
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Old 01-11-2014, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by reconpilot20
The Army does have the 350's as well as the 200's. I have buddies currently flying both versions.
I know they just bought some new 350's off the shelf for the USA Flight Check program. Very nice.
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