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Old 12-04-2013, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Hacker15e
Ahhhh, eagerness to deploy: the sign of someone who hasn't been there yet.

Seems appropriate to post this poem that was written by "Heavy" Thompson, an old Vietnam vet Raven FAC (and F-4 pilot) who was one of my T-37 sim instructors at Columbus in the 90s. This was on the wall of his little briefing cubicle and I read it every time I simmed with him. I didn't understand how brilliant it was until I later went to war myself, then followed it up with a trip to AETC as a T-38 IP.

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Good poem.
Though warriors often do not wish for war, when there is one going on they may often seek it out because it is their job.
I guess I am somewhat the exception to your quote above.
I had deployed a few times, including 'the desert', and volunteered twice more but was denied. It was my job.
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Old 12-04-2013, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Good poem.
Though warriors often do not wish for war, when there is one going on they may often seek it out because it is their job.
I guess I am somewhat the exception to your quote above.
I had deployed a few times, including 'the desert', and volunteered twice more but was denied. It was my job.
Yep, sometimes the only thing worse than being there is not being there.
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Originally Posted by C-17 Driver
Yep, sometimes the only thing worse than being there is not being there.
Yep.. I was IRAD'd in the middle of workups, leaving my squadron with 7 pilots vice the 12 we were supposed to have. Not even enough bodies to fill all the pilot seats without bringing an NFO or a flight quack to fill a copilot seat.

Plus I wanted my 1000 hour and 100 IKE traps patch, and they cut me off at 880 and 99 traps. Bastards!
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Old 12-04-2013, 07:14 AM
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I knew Heavy Thompson. He said he had flown the Thud before the F-4 (I never heard he was a Raven).

I told him "Heavy, I've heard the Thud was fast on the deck...how fast would it go?"

He said "I've seen 1000 knots INDICATED."

Good God.
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Old 12-04-2013, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
I knew Heavy Thompson. He said he had flown the Thud before the F-4 (I never heard he was a Raven).

I told him "Heavy, I've heard the Thud was fast on the deck...how fast would it go?"

He said "I've seen 1000 knots INDICATED."

Good God.
And I thought doing 400+ skimming the deck in a T-45 was hauling tail. Dear god.
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Old 12-04-2013, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
I knew Heavy Thompson. He said he had flown the Thud before the F-4 (I never heard he was a Raven).

I told him "Heavy, I've heard the Thud was fast on the deck...how fast would it go?"

He said "I've seen 1000 knots INDICATED."

Good God.
In G.I. Basel's book Pak Six he relates a story about a Thud driver who gets a few too many SAMs shot his way and has had enough. His wingman is trying to find him on the radio:
"Lead, where are you?"
"South, heading south."
"Say your airspeed."
"1000 knots"
"Can you pull it back a little?"
"Nope"
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
"Can you pull it back a little?"
"Nope"
Awesome!!!
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Originally Posted by C-17 Driver
Yep, sometimes the only thing worse than being there is not being there.
True.

I thought being stuck on the ground as a FAC in Gulf 1 was the worst thing that could happen to an aspiring fighter pilot.

When OIF kicked off in 2003, I was in Key West doing DACT as a platform for young F-18E/F guys finishing up the RAG. You'd think drinking beer on Duvall street in paradise would be exactly where you wanted to be, but after 12 years of being combat ready it felt really weird being out of the show.

On the other hand, F-15Cs didn't have a big role in 2003, as the Iraqis buried their jets. Had their been some air to air engagements, what had felt just "weird" would have been excruciatingly painful.
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A friend of mine tells of leaving a Route 6 target (Than Hoa power plant, IIRC) in an F-4 doing 720 indicated and a Thud joins in pod formation with the speed brakes out.

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I always viewed my mission like a Doctor views his. No Doc wants people to get hurt or sick...but they inevitably will. When they do, there's no way in **** he'll let someone else fix 'em if he can.

Nobody wants war. But when it happens, I want in...nobody can finish it better than me.
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