Noise complaints at the USAFA
11-12-2013, 06:11 AM
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11-12-2013, 07:29 AM
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Good luck with that.... When I bought my house in Briargate, I had to look up what an avigation easement is. In short, USAFA has avigation easements imposed on all the surrounding properties, meaning they have fly-over rights and the property owners have signed documents acknowledging that.
I don't doubt there are a handful of long-term property owners there with no such easements on record, but the overwhelming majority (and certainly all "new" neighborhoods) do.
All of this quite aside from shaking my head at the typical "buy a house next door to an airport, then complain about airplane noise" response....
I don't doubt there are a handful of long-term property owners there with no such easements on record, but the overwhelming majority (and certainly all "new" neighborhoods) do.
All of this quite aside from shaking my head at the typical "buy a house next door to an airport, then complain about airplane noise" response....
11-12-2013, 08:47 AM
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Reminds me when I was applying for a college teaching job and when time came to address my Reserve military membership they came back with: "yeah, we need you on campus M-F 9-5". In other words, everybody "supports" the military, until they have to do something other than merely saying they "support" the military. Bunch of NIMBY hypocrites.
Eff em. Freedom ain't free.
Eff em. Freedom ain't free.
11-12-2013, 12:01 PM
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Jug, interesting, haven't heard that before. Nothing like that when I bought, but I'm a little further East (still under the Class D though)
In their defense, they bought a house and the pattern had been the same for 40 years. Until it changed.
Got stuff going on tonite, would love to see the townhall. I'd bring popcorn.
--2020, isn't that a USERRA violation?
In their defense, they bought a house and the pattern had been the same for 40 years. Until it changed.
Got stuff going on tonite, would love to see the townhall. I'd bring popcorn.
--2020, isn't that a USERRA violation?
11-14-2013, 01:53 PM
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11-14-2013, 04:41 PM
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Sure is. But, USERRA is only valid in the land of unicorns and rainbows. In the real world, at-will employers wipe their @ss with USERRA. You'll never prove it in court either. Ask the weather channel chick, and she was hittable and had a public podium organic to her vocation. Besides, do you really want to work at a place you had to sue in order to retain employment in the first place? USERRA is a non-issue when you're a non-rated one weekend a month, two weeks a year kind of reservist, which is about the only military participation most civilian employers tolerate. Otherwise, for the rated types, it's a catch-22.
If you're not an airline guy or a co-located civil servant, don't bother with the reserves honestly.
If you're not an airline guy or a co-located civil servant, don't bother with the reserves honestly.
11-14-2013, 05:42 PM
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Sure is. But, USERRA is only valid in the land of unicorns and rainbows. In the real world, at-will employers wipe their @ss with USERRA. You'll never prove it in court either. Ask the weather channel chick, and she was hittable and had a public podium organic to her vocation. Besides, do you really want to work at a place you had to sue in order to retain employment in the first place? USERRA is a non-issue when you're a non-rated one weekend a month, two weeks a year kind of reservist, which is about the only military participation most civilian employers tolerate. Otherwise, for the rated types, it's a catch-22.
If you're not an airline guy or a co-located civil servant, don't bother with the reserves honestly.
If you're not an airline guy or a co-located civil servant, don't bother with the reserves honestly.
11-15-2013, 06:56 PM
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There is probably no one better in USERRA legal matters than him.
Very helpful when I called him about 13 years ago over some issues.
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