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Old 09-08-2011, 06:49 AM
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I am in my 11th month at DAL. Retired AF Maj at 20 years. Take-home pay is about $3,100 per month on average (about the same as retirement pay in my case). With new-hire pay and retirement added together, it was about a $40K pay cut (gross).

As others have said, get prepared early. We had cars, credit cards, etc all paid off, and my wife went to work about a year and a half prior to retirement. I have seen very little chane of lifestyle, even with commuting costs.

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What's the logic behind the extremely low entrance pay for new airline hires?
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What's the logic behind the extremely low entrance pay for new airline hires?
extremely high executive bonuses.
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:58 PM
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extremely high executive bonuses.
This ^^^^, combined with, "we've always done it that way" and "I had to do it, therefore you have to do it" mentality.
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Originally Posted by CAFB 04-12
What's the logic behind the extremely low entrance pay for new airline hires?
Supply, demand, sham bankruptcies, and unfortunately a pilot culture that accepts this pay scale mentality. There's way too many young pilots willing to work for peanuts, and there's way too many old pilots who have already been furloughed, been merged, been through 9/11 and now are absolutely unwilling to give up pay on the upper end of the scale. In addition to traditional "management versus labor" problems, we also have some tension between old and young.
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Old 09-09-2011, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CAFB 04-12
What's the logic behind the extremely low entrance pay for new airline hires?
Keep in mind, you are also on "probation" for your first year at an airline. The low first year pay is part of the "paying your dues" culture.

It is a whole lot easier to take if you also have a military retirement to supplement your income. I hope that option will remain for my brethren still toiling on AD ...
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Keep in mind, you are also on "probation" for your first year at an airline. The low first year pay is part of the "paying your dues" culture.

It is a whole lot easier to take if you also have a military retirement to supplement your income. I hope that option will remain for my brethren still toiling on AD ...
Thats what I'm hoping for but reading the news and the writing on the wall, can't count on it so save, save and save some more to offset the paycut.
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Originally Posted by Marvin
Keep in mind, you are also on "probation" for your first year at an airline. The low first year pay is part of the "paying your dues" culture.

It is a whole lot easier to take if you also have a military retirement to supplement your income. I hope that option will remain for my brethren still toiling on AD ...
With the draconian contract at UAL, those probie "dues" go well beyond the first year. Check out the pay scales!
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