Longest Time In Grade
#21
Dave fine
Just asking', but Lt Col Steffens could not have been a LT Col in Korea, at the end of the conflict he would have been only 26 with about 6 years of commissioned service. Not taking anything away from him and know his great reputation from a nearby fighter unit, but it hardly seems possible to have 27 years in grade.
GF
Just asking', but Lt Col Steffens could not have been a LT Col in Korea, at the end of the conflict he would have been only 26 with about 6 years of commissioned service. Not taking anything away from him and know his great reputation from a nearby fighter unit, but it hardly seems possible to have 27 years in grade.
GF
#22
Dave fine
Just asking', but Lt Col Steffens could not have been a LT Col in Korea, at the end of the conflict he would have been only 26 with about 6 years of commissioned service. Not taking anything away from him and know his great reputation from a nearby fighter unit, but it hardly seems possible to have 27 years in grade.
GF
Just asking', but Lt Col Steffens could not have been a LT Col in Korea, at the end of the conflict he would have been only 26 with about 6 years of commissioned service. Not taking anything away from him and know his great reputation from a nearby fighter unit, but it hardly seems possible to have 27 years in grade.
GF
Olds had not only risen in rank to field grade but was given command of his squadron on March 25, less than two years out of West Point and at only 22 years of age.
#23
Army ROTC Cadet: September 1924
Second Lieutenant, Field Artillery Reserve: June 14, 1928
Second Lieutenant, Ohio National Guard: September 22, 1928
Flight Cadet, Army Air Corps: September 28, 1928
Officer Commissions Terminated: October 2, 1929
Second Lieutenant, Air Corps Reserve: October 12, 1929
Second Lieutenant, Army Air Corps: February 1, 1930
First Lieutenant, Army Air Corps: March 12, 1935
Captain, Army Air Corps: January 26, 1940
Major, Army Air Corps: March 21, 1941
Lieutenant Colonel, Army of the United States: January 23, 1942
Colonel, Army of the United States: June 17, 1942
Brigadier General, Army of the United States: September 28, 1943
Permanent in the Regular Army: June 22, 1946
Major General, Army of the United States: March 3, 1944
Lieutenant General, United States Air Force: January 26, 1948
General, United States Air Force: October 29, 1951
General, USAF (Retired): February 1, 1965
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Pretty fast promotion track - but it doesn't seem that he went from O-2 to O-9 in only 4 years. THe part of the article below shows Captain to MajGen in 3 years, though some were temporary ranks it seems.
Promotions certainly could come fast in time of war - especially counting for battlefield promotions and when MAJORS were in command of B-17 units! I wonder if such fast promotion tracks were anywhere the norm except for maybe the most exceptional in the 50s and beyond?
LeMay experienced slow advancement throughout the 1930s, as did most officers of the seniority-driven regular army. By 1940, he was still a captain but, beginning in 1941, began to receive temporary advancement in grade in the expanding Army Air Forces. LeMay advanced from captain to brigadier general in three years and by 1944 was a major general. When World War II ended, he was appointed to the permanent rank of brigadier general in the Regular Army but held his temporary rank of major general in the Army until promotion to lieutenant general in the now separate United States Air Force in 1948. He then was promoted to full general in 1951 and held this rank until his retirement in 1965.
#24
Dates of rank
First Lieutenant, Army Air Corps: March 12, 1935
Captain, Army Air Corps: January 26, 1940
Major, Army Air Corps: March 21, 1941
Lieutenant Colonel, Army of the United States: January 23, 1942
Colonel, Army of the United States: June 17, 1942
Brigadier General, Army of the United States: September 28, 1943
Permanent in the Regular Army: June 22, 1946
Major General, Army of the United States: March 3, 1944
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Pretty fast promotion track - but it doesn't seem that he went from O-2 to O-9 in only 4 years. THe part of the article below shows Captain to MajGen in 3 years, though some were temporary ranks it seems.
Promotions certainly could come fast in time of war - especially counting for battlefield promotions and when MAJORS were in command of B-17 units! I wonder if such fast promotion tracks were anywhere the norm except for maybe the most exceptional in the 50s and beyond?
USMCFLYR
First Lieutenant, Army Air Corps: March 12, 1935
Captain, Army Air Corps: January 26, 1940
Major, Army Air Corps: March 21, 1941
Lieutenant Colonel, Army of the United States: January 23, 1942
Colonel, Army of the United States: June 17, 1942
Brigadier General, Army of the United States: September 28, 1943
Permanent in the Regular Army: June 22, 1946
Major General, Army of the United States: March 3, 1944
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Pretty fast promotion track - but it doesn't seem that he went from O-2 to O-9 in only 4 years. THe part of the article below shows Captain to MajGen in 3 years, though some were temporary ranks it seems.
Promotions certainly could come fast in time of war - especially counting for battlefield promotions and when MAJORS were in command of B-17 units! I wonder if such fast promotion tracks were anywhere the norm except for maybe the most exceptional in the 50s and beyond?
USMCFLYR
As was said it my other quote. Robin Olds was a Fighter Sq/CC as a major in his early 20s! Different times for sure! I remember when I was 22...I was still busy getting drunk and chasin tail in college!
#25
Haha...I knew I would get called on that! It's semantics but he was still a 1LT for the first 25 days of 1940. Also, I said he went from 1LT to MAJ Gen (O-8)...not O-9. But we're splitting hairs here...it's still crazy to get that kind of fast track.
As was said it my other quote. Robin Olds was a Fighter Sq/CC as a major in his early 20s! Different times for sure! I remember when I was 22...I was still busy getting drunk and chasin tail in college!
As was said it my other quote. Robin Olds was a Fighter Sq/CC as a major in his early 20s! Different times for sure! I remember when I was 22...I was still busy getting drunk and chasin tail in college!
Yes - LeMay had a meteoric rise in the ranks at one time, but I'd feel fairly confident to call that one of the extremes.
How about 20'something year old Colonels in the Civil War?
USMCFLYR
#26
for sure!
Agreed. I would also agree that it takes a war of that magnitude, to have such promotions. I was just pointing out to galaxy flyer, that it could have happened back then.
Agreed. I would also agree that it takes a war of that magnitude, to have such promotions. I was just pointing out to galaxy flyer, that it could have happened back then.
#27
Finedave--I knew Perry (Mr. Saltzgiver to me) through his kids I went to high school with. Only after being in the AF on AD for 2 years did I find out his connection with the CT ANG and by then it was too late to save me. He did have an awesome A-10 rap video about the Warthog he showed me a few years later when I was home to visit. Haven't been able to find it since. There was no internet then, so it probably never made it on youtube. Hysterically funny poking fun at the Hawg.
Kenn
Kenn
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,083
I can't touch time in grade or the stories, but for getting my monies worth out of Uncle Sam, I think I can give anyone a run for their money. Quitters (Two Year) bonus... decide to stick around and take the big bonus... get passed over for O-4 and get separation pay, then turn around and go into the reserves. The downside is part of my lump sum bonus comes out of my retirement pay beginning at age 60. The good side to that is I'll have over a quarter century of inflation to lessen the sting.
#29
I can't touch time in grade or the stories, but for getting my monies worth out of Uncle Sam, I think I can give anyone a run for their money. Quitters (Two Year) bonus... decide to stick around and take the big bonus... get passed over for O-4 and get separation pay, then turn around and go into the reserves. The downside is part of my lump sum bonus comes out of my retirement pay beginning at age 60. The good side to that is I'll have over a quarter century of inflation to lessen the sting.
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