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Old 01-24-2011, 09:11 PM
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This is an older article from the Ottawa Sun, but I understand from my friend that the Canadian Air Force is still having a bit of problem in recruitment. Wonder if they'll take an old bag like me?

KINGSTON - Of all the occupational hazards facing Canadian fighter pilots, you'd think getting blown up by an improvised explosive device (IED) would rank pretty far down on the list.

Not for Capt. Benoit Bouchard. The Westbrook native and Ecole Marie-Riviere and Royal Military College grad, who flew one of two CF-18s into King ston's Norman Rogers Airport to drum up interest in the fighter pilot trade among current RMC cadets this weekend, usually spends his time thousands of feet above such hazards.

But during a recent seven-month posting to Afghanistan as a forward air controller, directing bombs to be dropped by other planes, the light armoured vehicle in which he was riding was struck by a roadside bomb.

This doesn't usually happen to people who the military has spent $10 million training to be pilots.

"I was thinking at the time, what kind of a fighter pilot gets hit by an IED?" the relaxed Bouchard joked on the tarmac of Norman Rogers as cadets climb - ed in and out of the cockpits of the two jets parked there.

The LAV did its job and took the force of the blast, allowing Bouchard to continue directing in fire from coalition air forces -- Canada has not deployed fighters to Afghanistan despite constant chatter that the Hornets will eventually play a role there.

"As a fighter pilot, you know what other pilots are seeing and you can direct them in a lot easier," said Bouchard, who called in close-support fire on positions as little as 200 metres from where he was taking cover.

"If you think about being in the air high enough that you can see Toronto on one side and Montreal on the other, and your job is to drop a bomb into the corner of that garbage can over there, it helps to have another fighter pilot directing you in because they know what you're seeing."

It might seem strange that RMC is having difficulty attracting fighter pilots as the trade is long seen as the most desirable one in the air force.

Bouchard sports the iconic fighter pilot patch on his sleeve with the silhouette of a CF-18 and the motto 'Is it cool in here or is it just me?' -- but he says the long training period and limited number of spots tends to steer eager cadets into other air trades.

"When I went through RMC, 23 of the 24 people on my course wanted to be fighter pilots, and now that number might be four," he said, noting that pilot candidates are opting for helicopters or other fixed-wing aircraft to get into the air more quickly.

"What we're trying to do here is generate some enthusiasm among cadets and get them thinking about becoming fighter pilots."

He and fellow 3 Wing pilot Capt. Lorne Claymore brought the jets in Friday afternoon, doing a flyby of RMC as passing military pilots like to do, and, in Bouchard's case, also flying over the Kingston elementary school that his five-year-old daughter attends.

"I'm posted to Bagotville (Que.), so it's hard explaining to her why daddy can't be around every night like the other fathers," he said. "But if I'm able to fly over her school, it's not showing off, it lets her point up and say, 'That's my dad up there, that's what he does at work.' "

The regular flypasts, while they generate a handful of noise complaints from city residents, are a treasured tradition for military pilots, who can all remember freezing on the college parade square and thinking one day they'd be looking down at it from a cockpit if they toughed it out.

"It's an awesome job," Bouchard said. "I tell young pilots that every single flight that you take, take 10 seconds to look around and realize you're in a glass cockpit and you're above the clouds looking down and this is your office, this is what you're getting paid to do."

Canadian CF-18 fighter pilot Capt. Benoit Bouchard was at Norman Rogers Airport on Saturday trying to recruit Royal Military College cadets to become fighter pilots. (IAN ELLIOT Sun Media)
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This doesn't usually happen to people who the military has spent $10 million training to be pilots.
Someone should tell the Marines this!

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Inflation must really have taken hold if it now costs 10 million dollars to train a fighter pilot. Back in the day, it only cost a million or two, including UPT, but then again, two hamburgers, fries and a coke cost about a buck. Oh, for the good ole days.

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Someone should tell the Marines this!

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At least the USMC is forthright about this with applicants. An officer recruiter told me: "The primary job of all Marine second lieutenants is 'platoon leader'. Flying is an additional duty."
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Inflation must really have taken hold if it now costs 10 million dollars to train a fighter pilot. Back in the day, it only cost a million or two, including UPT, but then again, two hamburgers, fries and a coke cost about a buck. Oh, for the good ole days.

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I'm not sure exactly how they ever came up with those numbers - but I'm surprised it is that low actually. It seems that random numbers concerning the cost are just thrown around the media, but I'm sure there is someone, at CNATRA for example, who could give us a precise breakdown

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EXACTLY! No hiding that fact of life there! And if the OSO didn't tell you, you are sure to get an ear full through OCS and TBS too!

Times change - no doubt. there were times when EVERY one wanted jets out of primary it seems and then there are times, like the above article mentions, when a friend of mine was sent to command VT-6 and jet guys were specifically recruited (sent) into the VTs in order to *talk up* jets because less and less SNAs were interested in the pipeline for a variety of reasons, time spent in training only one variable.

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At least the USMC is forthright about this with applicants. An officer recruiter told me: "The primary job of all Marine second lieutenants is 'platoon leader'. Flying is an additional duty."
Guess what--flying is an additional duty in the US Air Force too...
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Guess what--flying is an additional duty in the US Air Force too...
Yeah, but the Marines will actually put you on the ground some where in the middle of your flying tour, regardless of the ramifications to your career.
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
Flying is an additional duty."
I remember my first OPSO (who I worked for as a schedule writer along with the 14 other collateral duties) tell me that there was only ONE block on the Fitness Report that had anything to do with FLYING THE AIRPLANE

Luckily for me - this OPSO was just pointing that out to me for my future benefit and then told me that my studies and preparation for my flights was just as important as my numerous ground jobs in his eyes - - but I had still better have that schedule completed on time!

Those ground tours in the Marines actually IMPROVE your chances - especially if you are somehow able to gain a command billet; but ANY good paper from a Ground Officer is like gold!

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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Times change - no doubt. there were times when EVERY one wanted jets out of primary it seems and then there are times, like the above article mentions, when a friend of mine was sent to command VT-6 and jet guys were specifically recruited (sent) into the VTs in order to *talk up* jets because less and less SNAs were interested in the pipeline for a variety of reasons, time spent in training only one variable.

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They were all Marine pilots, not a single Navy jet guy at the time. A few of us E2/C2 types but tactical aviation was definitely missing.
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Originally Posted by bunk22
They were all Marine pilots, not a single Navy jet guy at the time. A few of us E2/C2 types but tactical aviation was definitely missing.
Bunk -

Perfect! I forgot you were there during this period.
Did it help?

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