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Old 11-30-2010, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by zondaracer
Hehe I thought it was yoke OR stick
The turkey also wasn't single seat.
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Old 11-30-2010, 10:37 AM
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The turkey also wasn't single seat.

Uhh, neither was the B-47 which was previously mentioned. I didnīt see single seat as one of the criteria for the thread, just single pilot
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Originally Posted by zondaracer
Uhh, neither was the B-47 which was previously mentioned. I didnīt see single seat as one of the criteria for the thread, just single pilot
Boeing B-47 had two yokes and two pilots. Their must be a different term for the F-102 / F-106 cockpit "stick" with two grips. Is that really a yoke ?
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Originally Posted by zondaracer
Uhh, neither was the B-47 which was previously mentioned. I didnīt see single seat as one of the criteria for the thread, just single pilot
Usually - at least military terms - single pilot means single seat.
When someone mentions single seat they are talking about F-5/16/18, etc.... type of aircraft (I'll add - IN MY EXPERIENCE).
Even when talking about two-seat Eagles/Vipers/or Hornets - they are just called two-holers or family models - you get the idea.

The title of the thread, and some of the responses to it, has me confused about exactly what the OP was asking to tell the truth.

I thought he was basically asking what SINGLE SEAT AIRCRAFT had a YOKE (like the P-38).

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Old 11-30-2010, 11:09 AM
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Sorry to confuse the group. I flew the RB-57F which (unlike the B-57) has only one set of flight controls for two seats. When you check out in the aircraft, the instructor gets to sit in the back seat and watch.

I was wondering how many other military aircraft required the pilot to get in and fly without any "dual" instruction. It could be in a single seat aircraft or two seats where the second seat does not have access to flight controls.

Ther "yoke" criteria came from the RB-57F and U-2R which are high performance aircraft not by speed / g forces but by coffin corner flying.
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Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
Sorry to confuse the group. I flew the RB-57F which (unlike the B-57) has only one set of flight controls for two seats. When you check out in the aircraft, the instructor gets to sit in the back seat and watch.

I was wondering how many other military aircraft required the pilot to get in and fly without any "dual" instruction. It could be in a single seat aircraft or two seats where the second seat does not have access to flight controls.
Then apologies to zondaracer - because as I understood from my friends who did fly the Tomcat - during the inital FAM flights - there was a PILOT in the backseat training the Replacement Pilot and the instructor DID NOT have a set of controls.

The A-10 also fits your criteria too then. No two-seat A-10s. First time in the plane is truly a solo experience (from my understanding)

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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
No two-seat A-10s.
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Weren't there a couple two seat night/all weather or something test types produced of those?
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Originally Posted by ryan1234
Weren't there a couple two seat night/all weather or something test types produced of those?
Not that I have ever heard of and the few A-10 pilots that I have flown with always were very proud of the fact that their first flights in the airplane were SOLO!

Wiki says:
YA-10B Night/Adverse Weather-Two-seat experimental prototype, for work at night and in bad weather. The one YA-10B prototype was converted from a A-10A
But I don't think that we ought to be counting such extremes (one prototype?). For Ftrooppilot's purpose - I thikn the A-10 still fits his criteria.

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I don't have much experience, but I was thinking the A-10 had a stick?
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Originally Posted by ZackN
I don't have much experience, but I was thinking the A-10 had a stick?
It does
We are waaaayyyy off the OP's original question!
Sorry FTrooppilot

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