Help a squid....with his SWA conversion
07-10-2006, 08:48 AM
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Help a squid....with his SWA conversion
Yep, you guessed it....another "how do I convert my military time" thread"
Per SWA's website: " For military personnel, Southwest Airlines will allow flight time logged as "Pilot In Command" (PIC) only if you are the Captain/Aircraft Commander, Evaluator, or Instructor Pilot. Primary time will only be considered PIC on a specific aircraft after an individual upgrades to Aircraft Commander in the appropriate aircraft. Time logged, as "Other Time" will not be considered."
The first two sentences above by themselves make perfect sense, but seem somewhat contradictory in relation to one another.
(1) I take the first sentence to mean that only Aircraft Commander time logged as such in my logbook (plus the conversion) may be counted as PIC time for SWA.
(2) The second sentence implies that Primary time (aka First Pilot time for USN) can be considered PIC time on a specific aircraft after an individual upgrades to Aircraft Commander.
So, here's the root of my question...Say I am a designated/qualified aircraft commander in model and I fly with another pilot who is also a qualified aircraft commander in model. The other pilot signs for the aircraft on that particular day. Come time to do the yellow sheet, he gets the A time and we split the First/Second Pilot time, as is customary. Per (2), can I count the First Pilot time from this flight towards my SWA PIC mins? If yes, what about (1), which says that I can ONLY count PIC time when I am the Aircraft Commander (I won't have any logged A/C time from the flight).
Am I reading/interpreting this wrong or am I simply missing something obvious? Fortunately, I'm pretty close to SWA mins on pure A/C time alone, but if (2) is correct, there's likely another 5-600 potentially creditable PIC hours I can claim--or not.
Per SWA's website: " For military personnel, Southwest Airlines will allow flight time logged as "Pilot In Command" (PIC) only if you are the Captain/Aircraft Commander, Evaluator, or Instructor Pilot. Primary time will only be considered PIC on a specific aircraft after an individual upgrades to Aircraft Commander in the appropriate aircraft. Time logged, as "Other Time" will not be considered."
The first two sentences above by themselves make perfect sense, but seem somewhat contradictory in relation to one another.
(1) I take the first sentence to mean that only Aircraft Commander time logged as such in my logbook (plus the conversion) may be counted as PIC time for SWA.
(2) The second sentence implies that Primary time (aka First Pilot time for USN) can be considered PIC time on a specific aircraft after an individual upgrades to Aircraft Commander.
So, here's the root of my question...Say I am a designated/qualified aircraft commander in model and I fly with another pilot who is also a qualified aircraft commander in model. The other pilot signs for the aircraft on that particular day. Come time to do the yellow sheet, he gets the A time and we split the First/Second Pilot time, as is customary. Per (2), can I count the First Pilot time from this flight towards my SWA PIC mins? If yes, what about (1), which says that I can ONLY count PIC time when I am the Aircraft Commander (I won't have any logged A/C time from the flight).
Am I reading/interpreting this wrong or am I simply missing something obvious? Fortunately, I'm pretty close to SWA mins on pure A/C time alone, but if (2) is correct, there's likely another 5-600 potentially creditable PIC hours I can claim--or not.
07-24-2006, 05:13 PM
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Codguy,
After going to the open house and talking with SWA HR its pretty straight forward. Take your total time then subtract all other time and then add your .3 per sortie conversion. I know a guy that was literally hired with 1 hr over the mins. According to several people at HR if you have the minimums then you can place a check mark in that box. Whether you have 10,000 or 2,500 they consider the minimums competitive. Hope this helps.
After going to the open house and talking with SWA HR its pretty straight forward. Take your total time then subtract all other time and then add your .3 per sortie conversion. I know a guy that was literally hired with 1 hr over the mins. According to several people at HR if you have the minimums then you can place a check mark in that box. Whether you have 10,000 or 2,500 they consider the minimums competitive. Hope this helps.
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