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Old 08-17-2009, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Normally we don't lie about things in the military...but entrance medical exams is the exception. If you can get the job done, they don't really care what issues you may or may not have, they just want their paperwork to look clean.

I was told to not admit anything when I did my entry medical decades ago...by my grandfather, a retired career naval officer who was one of the first naval aviators and about as straight-laced as they come.
Just had a FC1, everyone was really cool - managed to get through no problems at all - but the flight surgeon said for certain items it may be the luck of the draw for which other doctor you got for the respective item, etc.. he said the optometrist I went through "loved crushing people's dreams" - if he was joking, I couldn't tell - but he was suprised I made it through 20/20. Also I noticed ...eavesdropping a little... if you selected "yes" to a certain condition the doc looked at you like you had four eyes sort of a "why would you say that?"... he usually followed up by "do you know that for sure?", etc.
The basic thing I got from it all was... don't intentionally lie, but don't put yourself on report... "I can't recall ever having ....." or "not to my knowledge". I'm not a big fan of outright lies, especially if you know the condition to exist (been to several doctors, had treatment)... but if you aren't a doctor, don't diagnose yourself!!!
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Old 08-17-2009, 12:35 PM
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Interesting, didn't know I came into the AF through the "Heavy" normalization program.
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jcaplins
Last time I checked PRK was approved with a waiver only if you were already in the military. LASIK was still being experimented on Air force Academy cadets with pilot slots.
I was just looking at the current USAF Academy catalog with my stepson, and it indicates LASIK is disqualifying with no waiver. If you are already in service and it is done by the Air Force docs, it may be different.
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Old 08-18-2009, 01:29 AM
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I seem to always **** on somebody's parade; by heavy I meant the relaxed ( I assumed) eye requirements to fly something bigger than a fighter. How was this offensive or even an issue?


Anyway, thanks to all who replied. Gotta sit down and think about my future long and hard.
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Old 08-18-2009, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustang87
I seem to always **** on somebody's parade; by heavy I meant the relaxed ( I assumed) eye requirements to fly something bigger than a fighter. How was this offensive or even an issue?
Really, let's see what you actually wrote:

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Given all of these problems that are holding me back, I'm pretty sure it's impossible for me to get a slot even flying a heavy in the military...LASIK is allowed, but I'll bet my bottom dollar asthma and my 2.5 GPA would wash me out.
"Given all of these problems", that sounds like a little more than Lasik. "All of these problems" actually referred to your asthma, 2.5 GPA, and eyes - only of which your eyes can be corrected - and you included them in the same sentence as "even flying a heavy in the military". But you can't see how people took offense? Was this the self-righteousness that you addressed your professors with, because I can see where the 2.5 GPA came from.
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Old 08-18-2009, 10:10 PM
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Relax, I know what I meant. Flying fighters and their G-forces wouldn't seem to couple well with my asthma or eyesight, but I was curious to see if maybe they would let it slide. Heavies don't have the same performance envelope, since I (assume) they hardly ever pull 8+ G's, so my chances would be better that route. I included my GPA only to see my odds of flying period, so my apologies if my sentence was worded badly; either way, you can fly and I can't. I admire anyone that can do that and I hope to be in your shoes someday, regardless of what I fly.

A couple of other people understood what I meant, and others answered without the big stink. Why would I scrap for a fight and insult someone when I want my question answered?

Just a forum, don't let it get to ya
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustang87
Relax, I know what I meant. Flying fighters and their G-forces wouldn't seem to couple well with my asthma or eyesight, but I was curious to see if maybe they would let it slide. Heavies don't have the same performance envelope, since I (assume) they hardly ever pull 8+ G's, so my chances would be better that route. I included my GPA only to see my odds of flying period, so my apologies if my sentence was worded badly; either way, you can fly and I can't. I admire anyone that can do that and I hope to be in your shoes someday, regardless of what I fly.

A couple of other people understood what I meant, and others answered without the big stink. Why would I scrap for a fight and insult someone when I want my question answered?

Just a forum, don't let it get to ya
Dude,
Your post was poorly worded. Maybe you don't have the wattage upstairs to understand why but like you said, who really cares...its a forum. Anyway, your asthma might pose a problem with heavies considering we fly to all sorts of crappy places with horrendous air. If you have seasonal asthma then you are going to have problems. To also add on, we fly 20+ hour crew days routinely on active duty and the air in the aircraft is very dry and often full of dust if you are in the middle east. If you have asthma you are going to have problems. I don't know why you think eyesight has to be better for a fighter pilot, but trust me, you need to be able to see well to fly heavies also. Low vis approaches, hazy conditions, traffic and low lighting at numerous austere airfields are some reasons. Just my 2 cents.
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