Turbulent Tanking
07-29-2009, 06:04 PM
#11
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I tend to just put an entire loop in the hose and let it rest on the nose..which is fine right up until you need to back out....that actually happened to me once and I still to this day don't know how I didnt rip the probe off or clip and AOA probe. I think I said to myself......whoa I don't want to ever do that again.
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07-29-2009, 06:45 PM
#12
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Its time to let you guys in on a BAD rumor on the 90 deg kink. On the -135 and I am sure its the same for the KC-10 YOU can't control the fuel flow, and you don't need the kink (I think that is your Navy AR system only) when you make a contact with the drougue the pilots turns the pump on and you get fuel, it has nothing to do with the kink. So don't work harder then you need just make contact and we will do the rest.
07-29-2009, 07:15 PM
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Its time to let you guys in on a BAD rumor on the 90 deg kink. On the -135 and I am sure its the same for the KC-10 YOU can't control the fuel flow, and you don't need the kink (I think that is your Navy AR system only) when you make a contact with the drougue the pilots turns the pump on and you get fuel, it has nothing to do with the kink. So don't work harder then you need just make contact and we will do the rest.
Its time to let you guys in on a BAD rumor on the 90 deg kink. On the -135 and I am sure its the same for the KC-10 YOU can't control the fuel flow, and you don't need the kink (I think that is your Navy AR system only) when you make a contact with the drougue the pilots turns the pump on and you get fuel, it has nothing to do with the kink. So don't work harder then you need just make contact and we will do the rest.
On USN/USMC systems (and the KC-10), you have to push the hose in a certain number of feet to get the fuel to flow. Don't push it in far enough - or push it in too far - and the flow stops.
So...you're saying that if I engage the -135 with the probe only and did NOT put any bend in the hose that fuel would still flow then? If that is the case - I can't keep it in that few inch window - I need some play; so maybe that is the purpse of the kink.
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07-29-2009, 07:30 PM
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Actually, on the -10 you do need a slight kink.
But on the 135, yes, it is a myth that you need to kink the hose. A boom operator once told me that he thinks the myth came about because some booms use the kink as a good indicator that the probe has made contact, and decide to start pumping gas when they see it.
But on the 135, yes, it is a myth that you need to kink the hose. A boom operator once told me that he thinks the myth came about because some booms use the kink as a good indicator that the probe has made contact, and decide to start pumping gas when they see it.
07-29-2009, 07:43 PM
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Actually, on the -10 you do need a slight kink.
But on the 135, yes, it is a myth that you need to kink the hose. A boom operator once told me that he thinks the myth came about because some booms use the kink as a good indicator that the probe has made contact, and decide to start pumping gas when they see it.
But on the 135, yes, it is a myth that you need to kink the hose. A boom operator once told me that he thinks the myth came about because some booms use the kink as a good indicator that the probe has made contact, and decide to start pumping gas when they see it.
USMCFLYR
