KC10 FATboy

I also had a similar situation with the airlines that interviewed me. I prepared nice easy to read speadsheets showing how I calculated my flight time. One airline looked at it for 30 seconds and said they liked their logo on my paperwork (yes, I was sucking up to them). The other airline did't want copies of it and told me to keep them.

duece123

this may not be the right formum to ask this, but what the hell.

I know you need 1500TT to get an ATP. Is that mil TT (to include other time) or just primary+secondary time? Thanks

cficpilot

I know you need 1500TT to get an ATP. Is that mil TT (to include other time) or just primary+secondary time? Thanks[/quote]

That would be 1500TT as the FAA would calculate it. Only the military counts "other" time in your total time. Therefore it would just be your pri and sci time.

When I made up my resume for Civ time, I calculated it by taking my mil TT minus "other" time and then added .3 for each sortie I flew.

KC10 FATboy

Don't ever use Other time for anything.

Don't use a conversion for your ATP. My check airmen never asked to see documentation of flight time, but I had my SARMs printout just in case.

HuggyU2

I interviewed well, and never added anything to my time: military guys should log "military time".
I know of guys that "added" extra to "convert" their times to civilian. They didn't fare as well in their interviews. One was actually sent packing due to his times,... and he had a lot.
Face it: most every company knows how you log military time. Be predictable. 500 sorties x .3 = 150 hours. Is that going to be "the end all, be all" for your interview?

crewdawg

No but it could get you the required mins earlier. Which could get you a quicker interview and the all important higher seniority number. You never know, it could mean the difference between a furlough or keeping your job the next time the economy catches a cold.

But I do agree with everyone else, be prepared to back up your numbers.

MalteseX

Your printout of your AF flying times will normally suffice. If you are interviewing at company "A" and at Company "B" --- more often than not, the companies will have a formula on their recruiting board that explains what to do with military time--- some say add .3 to each sortie, some say .2, some say other things.

Bottom line is that you do not have to add anything on your own. The company will specify. If the company doesn't specify--then use your judgment--- I personally did not add times unless specifically asked. If you do, explain that the AF counts T/O to landing plus 5 minutes---and that you added time to reflect actual block time. (.3 is the most accepted -- per sortie not total flight time). Be sure to subtract "other" time.

If you are going for FAA ratings, do not add time. (Unless the FAA allows it). When I got my ratings, they did not. (years ago though).

I have conducted pilot interviews at my company. I didn't pay attention to the additives of the interviewees. I merely looked at the AF printout for a couple of seconds. If they were under our minimums, I subtracted "other" and added .2 to each sortie. (But that was just at our company).

Remember, almost every company worth working for will know how time from each Service is calculated. If they do not know, it means that your military buds never wanted to work there!!!!

HercDriver130

When I flew Hercs we logged Takeoff to landing + 5 mins. I logged in my civilian log that time plus .3 .... WE ALWAYS started engines at Pope... 15-30 minutes prior to departure...... My logs have never been questioned.

MalteseX

When we interviewed a USAF pilot, we merely asked him for his AFORMS printouts (not sure what AFORMS are called now---I know it changed though). That was always good enough.

The only time we would have questioned it was that if I guy would have added the .3 or so to meet any of our minimums.

MalteseX

A little "inside" intel.

When I gave interviews:

For heavy guys, everything else being equal (hand carried resume, meeting chief pilot, having inside recommendations etc) 7500 hours is a very "magic" number. The computer would give a max flight time score to military guys with over 7500 hours for a human "look". Civ guys the number is higher. For fighter types, the number is lower but I don't remember what it was. (I'm thinking it was 3500-4000 fighter or trainer hours)

PS for those who don't know. The computer gives a "score" to a resume/application depending upon the quals of the pilot candidate. Education is scored; flight time; jobs held; leadership positions; check airman/stan eval; IP qual; "extra" duties (no kidding) (want a higher score, be a safety officer or teach Instrument refresher courses); schools attended (yes SOS etc COUNTS higher)---at our company, you had to translate the terms to civilian however; Did not understand stan/eval-- had to use Check Airman etc.