KC10 FATboy

Fred:

I have two very close friends who are being denied entry into the reserves because of this, and I have one friend who is now having to be kicked out of the reserves.

Do you know this to be fact? Or something you've "heard from a friend?"

Do you know anyone who was able to beat the system?

Any contacts?

Thanks for the help.

-Fatty

Silver2Gold

Fatty,

I took the VSP and seperated from AD in Sept 07 as a Major select and started work for DAL shortly after. Sometime after the first of the year in 2008, I received a letter from the reserve personnel center offering regrets that I had been passed over for 0-4 in the IRR. Since I had been selected for 0-4 on AD, I promptly called the reserve personnel center and offered a big ****?! I sent them a copy of the paper that had my AD line # along with the letter from my AD Wing CC congratulating me on my selection to 0-4. A week or so later I received another letter from the IRR stating that they were honoring my AD promotion and that I had a promotion date of 15May09.

On 16 May 09, I took that letter and swore in as a LCDR, completing my inter-service transfer to the Navy reserves. I'm now flying for the USN on mil leave.

Hope this helps. PM me with any questions

Horny

Kikuchiyo

About 15 recallees are heading to Beale. I don't know which unit has the Global Hawk - that 15 is everyone going to Beale.

The 8-yr rule is based on the fact that they'd have to conduct an FEB to put you in a cockpit. They just don't want to spend the money/man-hours doing FEBs for us when there are other jobs we can fill.

About 22 going to Scott, most of them to the TACC, but also AMC, TRANSCOM, and 18 AF staffs.

Kikuchiyo

1 - They do expect to exceed the 500 goal. They'll close the application window as announced on 31 Dec, but they're not going to just close up the shop as soon as they've approved the 500th recall. They'll finish what they've started and process every app they receive until the end of the year. Incidentally, they were shocked by the number of apps they received. They said their goal was 500, but they really only expected to get about 100 bodies back on AD.

2 - I'm not sure my timeline was typical, and I don't have inside knowledge of timelines. My physical was approved while my package was being reviewed by the panel, and I received an SOI within a couple days. I've heard it's taking longer now, but can't really speak to what's typical anymore.

Remember, there's 2 parts, the medical and the panel. If you want me to check to spreadsheet for your status as of 26 Oct, PM me your real name (real first and last, please, not what you go by). Or just call the Contact Center and have them read you everything in the "recall database" on your application - dates, notes, comments, etc.

3 - I got mine by email, as a pdf. I think that's their preffered method. The spreadsheet I got from them lists emails & phone numbers. Obviously, they have your mailing address from your app, but they'd have to dig that out to snail-mail you. Has anyone gotten it any other way?

Aloha Air Pilot

Kiku,
Any idea what is left in the pipeline? Do the assignments folks request assignments on your behalf per your 'dream' sheet or do they get periodic drops from AFPC from which they need to fill? Is a by name request one way to get an assignment?
Thanks

crewdog58

Actually anyone out of the cockpit more than 8 years going to a job requiring aeronautical orders (including UAV's) falls under the FEB rule. I'm getting a Predator assignment to Creech but they are waiving my FEB. The waiver itself is a 60-day process requiring approvals from Creech Wing CC, 12 AF CC and ACC. Once that is done they will revalidate my AO and notify AFPC so I can start negotiating a report date. I'm hoping I might at least know my report date before Christmas. I submitted my application on 1 May, physical in May, no medical waivers required, but it will still be at least 8 months from the time I started before I will have EAD orders!

UALBusDrvr

Anyone know how long the Aero Order Reval/FEB process is running these days? Is it a rubber stamp but lengthy process or have there been cases where the request for Aero Order Reval is denied? I've got a UAV assignment offer pending Aero Order Reval and it's been 5 weeks since my flight records went to ACC. With my last AF flight way back in Aug 98 I imagine I am nearing the end of my usefulness to Uncle Sam even though I've been flying commercial since then. Just curious how long it takes to get word back from the FEB.

Kikuchiyo

AFAIK, they look to put you in something that's showing available at the time or is expected to be available, or a unit that they know will have continuing needs. 3 times during the year, units in the AF put in requisitions asking for bodies to come fill specific positions (in fact, I'll be submitting requisitions next week). If the AO happens to look while the requisitions are up, there's more jobs available. But any unfilled requisitions will remain visible for them to fill, and that's the pool of jobs they'll work from out of cycle. But then they have to find you a training slot, if needed. So, no, there's no drop for us.

As to a by-name, absolutely it's one method. We by-named an individual to a job here at USAFE, and he'll be here in a couple weeks. If you know someone or know of a particular job, ask them to work it for you.

Crewdog, thanks for the better explanation on FEB's, UAV's and the 8-yr rule.

FredtheGnome

This is fact. Silver2Gold already beat me to the punch and summed up how it works. The only contacts I know of are the AFRC call center and explain that they were selected for promotion on AD and need to have their records updated. The rest of the process is fairly quick and painless. Hopefully your friends kept some record showing their line number, which will help the process.

Sorry I cannot be more help.

Aloha Air Pilot

Crewdog58 or anyone else,
Do you have any info you can share in this forum about Creech; i.e. time for initial training, work schedule, TDY rates? I know nothing about it, except that there are available assignments to that location and it is an hour drive from Nellis.
Thanks