USAF voluntary officer recall (including retirees)
#631
I submitted my application about 2 months ago, but the whole thing is still waiting for AFRC to sign my recommendation letter. Something tells me that they're dragging their feet so that I bust the December application timeframe.
#632
On Reserve
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 17
UAS availability
Does anybody know how many of the folks went to UAS' at Beale? I spoke to the assignments officer this week and he told me that since I have been out of an AF cockpit for over 8 years I cannot go back to flying, even though I have been flying commercially since leaving the AD. He was trying to sell me Creech and Canon. He said that Beale was almost non existant. Anyone get the same info?
#633
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Ret AD, back to AA
Posts: 115
How should/can we play the sanctuary card???
The real question I have about the Limited Return to Active Duty program deals with just how easy it will be to reach my 20 year AD retirement without significant strife. In my estimation, Retired Return to AD guys don’t have to worry much about in how their program will be administered—you get 2 or 3 year orders and towards the end of them apply if you want for an extra year or longer up to the 48 month limit. If you get it—great. If you don’t, you simply go back into retirement.
For us guys trying to reach an AD retirement, the waters are a little murky. I will start my 3 years of LRAD orders next month as a flyer here at Charleston, but need 5 more months after that for my 20 years of AD. My understanding at the outset of this program was that we could “apply” for sanctuary at the 18 year point and our orders would be extended up to, but not above 48 months, to reach our retirement while keeping the LPRP protections. However, in a recent conversation with the recall ops, they said that the orders part was true but at that point the AF would re-evaluate our assignments and reserve the right to do with us what they willed. In other words, our LPRP program assurances of no PCS and no 1 year remotes are voided--very scary stuff! “CJ” went on to actually tell me that the LPRP program was not created to “help reservists get to sanctuary” to achieve a retirement—I take that to mean that guys like me declare sanctuary at the 18 year point at our own peril.
SO, does anyone out there have any good answers about sanctuary and how it is administered? I’ve read some on it, but cannot find anywhere where it says we must officially “apply” and when it must be done—is it right when you hit 18 years or can you “delay” declaring it until, say, six months before your initial 3 year LRAD orders are complete? I’d like to be able to say, “OK, my original orders are almost up, and oh, by the way, I’m in sanctuary, so please give me my 5 month extension.”
Also do any of you know of a requirement that you must serve for either 2 or 3 years and extend in whole years only? I hope to extend my orders for just 5 months beyond my 3 year commitment.
Thanks.
For us guys trying to reach an AD retirement, the waters are a little murky. I will start my 3 years of LRAD orders next month as a flyer here at Charleston, but need 5 more months after that for my 20 years of AD. My understanding at the outset of this program was that we could “apply” for sanctuary at the 18 year point and our orders would be extended up to, but not above 48 months, to reach our retirement while keeping the LPRP protections. However, in a recent conversation with the recall ops, they said that the orders part was true but at that point the AF would re-evaluate our assignments and reserve the right to do with us what they willed. In other words, our LPRP program assurances of no PCS and no 1 year remotes are voided--very scary stuff! “CJ” went on to actually tell me that the LPRP program was not created to “help reservists get to sanctuary” to achieve a retirement—I take that to mean that guys like me declare sanctuary at the 18 year point at our own peril.
SO, does anyone out there have any good answers about sanctuary and how it is administered? I’ve read some on it, but cannot find anywhere where it says we must officially “apply” and when it must be done—is it right when you hit 18 years or can you “delay” declaring it until, say, six months before your initial 3 year LRAD orders are complete? I’d like to be able to say, “OK, my original orders are almost up, and oh, by the way, I’m in sanctuary, so please give me my 5 month extension.”
Also do any of you know of a requirement that you must serve for either 2 or 3 years and extend in whole years only? I hope to extend my orders for just 5 months beyond my 3 year commitment.
Thanks.
#634
For those in the IRR
For those of you who are Captains and are in the IRR.
I personally know three individuals who have been twice passed over for Major in the IRR. After this happens, they are unable to serve in any capacity as an officer in the US military. Who would of thought? Also, this is preventing one guy from joining my unit.
So, a warning to all you guys who took the VSP. If you are looking at coming back to the military, do this ASAP. Once you get passed over, it's over for good.
I personally know three individuals who have been twice passed over for Major in the IRR. After this happens, they are unable to serve in any capacity as an officer in the US military. Who would of thought? Also, this is preventing one guy from joining my unit.
So, a warning to all you guys who took the VSP. If you are looking at coming back to the military, do this ASAP. Once you get passed over, it's over for good.
#635
For those of you who are Captains and are in the IRR.
I personally know three individuals who have been twice passed over for Major in the IRR. After this happens, they are unable to serve in any capacity as an officer in the US military. Who would of thought? Also, this is preventing one guy from joining my unit.
So, a warning to all you guys who took the VSP. If you are looking at coming back to the military, do this ASAP. Once you get passed over, it's over for good.
I personally know three individuals who have been twice passed over for Major in the IRR. After this happens, they are unable to serve in any capacity as an officer in the US military. Who would of thought? Also, this is preventing one guy from joining my unit.
So, a warning to all you guys who took the VSP. If you are looking at coming back to the military, do this ASAP. Once you get passed over, it's over for good.
If you met and passed your promotion board on AD, but didn't stick around long enough to pin on, you still have hope. You need to call the reserve personnel center and inform them. They will honor the promotion, which will negate the mandatory separation date. Without a mandatory separation date, you are free to apply for this program or join a reserve unit.
#637
New Hire
Joined APC: Nov 2009
Posts: 1
Snacks - 603rd AOC Question?
First off, thanks for all the postings about your travels to Ramstein. Could you share some thoughts about daily life around the AOC now that you have been there a few months. I'm awaiting an SOI to the 603rd as well and have received some conflicting reports about how soon and for how long you could expect to spend at Al Udied...Thanks
#639
Clarification
....The target for number of bodies to bring back was 500. They got over 900 applications. Over 300 are "on orders" (meaning they have orders in hand, not that they've actually reported for duty). Over 300 more are being processed, and about 258 are no longer in the process for whatever reason (ineligible, medical, withdrew, declined, etc).....
I'm 2 months into the process; got medically approved a month ago. I would gues I'm in the 300 group (being processed above, not the guys in the movie). I'm guessing the med-clearance takes the longest, and any offer will happen in another month or so.
Questions:
1. Does your contact know if they will exceed the 500 target?
2. How long did it take you to get an offer once the med-clearance was done? Or, what is typical?
3. How do they deliver the offer? Phone, e-mail, or hard-mail?
Thanks for the insights.
#640
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 12
I've been back on AD for 2+ Months now and thought I would pass some of the good/bad/ugly for those still working the process.
1. Good - Flying. I took and AETC job and the flying is coming along without issue (instrument check complete).
2. Bad - Finance. Although I did get a paycheck 30 days after coming back and now get paid every 15 days (as expected), I am only getting base pay. The flight pay and housing pay have hit some snag. Finance said I won't get it on 13 Nov either, so I am currently 75 days without either pay. I also got 1 month of retired and AD pay (they haven't come asking for that back yet, I assume they will when I am trying to buy Christmas presents).
3. Ugly - Medical. Yes the issues continue after you get back in. I took my return physical in April, but it seems that physical goes to the land of Oz after you finish it. Nobody could find the results...so another physical for local clearance in Sept, another physical for TDY local clearance in Oct, (including footprints and another EKG) and they just told me I have to take my physical in my birth month (Dec)! At least I know I'm healthy.
1. Good - Flying. I took and AETC job and the flying is coming along without issue (instrument check complete).
2. Bad - Finance. Although I did get a paycheck 30 days after coming back and now get paid every 15 days (as expected), I am only getting base pay. The flight pay and housing pay have hit some snag. Finance said I won't get it on 13 Nov either, so I am currently 75 days without either pay. I also got 1 month of retired and AD pay (they haven't come asking for that back yet, I assume they will when I am trying to buy Christmas presents).
3. Ugly - Medical. Yes the issues continue after you get back in. I took my return physical in April, but it seems that physical goes to the land of Oz after you finish it. Nobody could find the results...so another physical for local clearance in Sept, another physical for TDY local clearance in Oct, (including footprints and another EKG) and they just told me I have to take my physical in my birth month (Dec)! At least I know I'm healthy.
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