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Old 12-04-2008, 01:01 PM
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Question for you all ...

I asked for separation from Active Duty in March and was approved. Up until that time, I spent 10 years, 2 months, and 19 days on active duty status and I completed all of my active duty service commitments (No VSP, No Palace Chase). In the letter I wrote, i asked to be released from active duty service.

I just received a copy of my DD Form 214. Type of Separation says "resignation" and Narrative Reason For Separation says "Reduction in Force".

My question for the group is, did I unknowingly resign my commission when I asked for separation? What impact does this now have on me if #1 I choose to enter a reserve unit and/or #2 I try to get back into active duty?

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Old 12-04-2008, 01:11 PM
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It is necessary to resign your commission in order to leave AD. The reserves are a seperate organization, and a reserve commission is a seperate animal.

My DD214 stated that I had accepted a reserve commission...they swore me in before they gave me the DD214. I was a few months short of eight years, so I was still obligated to at least the IRR.

I would query whoever is processing you out...if they can commission you in the reserves before you leave, that might be safest (in case our new regime decides to do something silly, like cut all military spending 50%).

Or maybe they leave that up to the reserve or guard component you chose to affiliate with. There should be a seperation code and a re-entry code... look those up to ensure they didn't tag you as unsuitable for re-entry.

As far as the RIF wording...it seems inconsistent with resignation, but they might have done that to give you additional transition benefits accorded to those RIFed (since you resigned during a RIF period).
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I'm already full up separated. Been out since March of this year. I guess I'll find out tomorrow when I visit the Reseves. I know many of my friends took and oath into the reserves when they left. I did not.

I keep getting emails from Uncle Sam regarding status updates (medical and address information). But, as far as I know, I have ZERO commitment to anyone.

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I'm the same as you, no VSP, etc, and finished my ADSC. My 214 says "resignation" and "voluntary separation based on completion of ADSC." Of course, in my letter, I just asked to separate since my ADSC was over. In my opinion, this will have no effect on going ANG/RES. I went to ANG later.

Maybe somehow you can bilk the government out of a few extra $ by hiring a lawyer and saying you got RIF'd with no compensation.

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Question for you all ...

I asked for separation from Active Duty in March and was approved. Up until that time, I spent 10 years, 2 months, and 19 days on active duty status and I completed all of my active duty service commitments (No VSP, No Palace Chase). In the letter I wrote, i asked to be released from active duty service.

I just received a copy of my DD Form 214. Type of Separation says "resignation" and Narrative Reason For Separation says "Reduction in Force".

My question for the group is, did I unknowingly resign my commission when I asked for separation? What impact does this now have on me if #1 I choose to enter a reserve unit and/or #2 I try to get back into active duty?

Thanks ...

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Maybe somehow you can bilk the government out of a few extra $ by hiring a lawyer and saying you got RIF'd with no compensation.
You know, that would rock, but I would feel guilty. It would put me in the same class as our Washington politicians who steal money from the government.

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Old 12-04-2008, 04:30 PM
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Another question ...

My Reentry Code says "NOT APPLICABLE". That surprises me.

Does that mean that I could not come back to active duty?

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Originally Posted by rickair7777
It is necessary to resign your commission in order to leave AD. The reserves are a seperate organization, and a reserve commission is a seperate animal.

My DD214 stated that I had accepted a reserve commission...they swore me in before they gave me the DD214. I was a few months short of eight years, so I was still obligated to at least the IRR.

I would query whoever is processing you out...if they can commission you in the reserves before you leave, that might be safest (in case our new regime decides to do something silly, like cut all military spending 50%).

Or maybe they leave that up to the reserve or guard component you chose to affiliate with. There should be a seperation code and a re-entry code... look those up to ensure they didn't tag you as unsuitable for re-entry.

As far as the RIF wording...it seems inconsistent with resignation, but they might have done that to give you additional transition benefits accorded to those RIFed (since you resigned during a RIF period).
FWIW when I was separating, I was told by BUPERS that there is a move afoot to do away with the reserve commission process period. This would eliminate the need for the 'reserve oath' and the 6 months(all the way to to SECDEF's office) it takes to process prior to leaving AD. I was told that ultimately if you chose to leave AD you would resign your commission. If you chose to remain in the reserves your AD "commission" would essentially serve the purpose as your 'reserve commission' and you'd be transferred on paper over to IRR, SELRES, FTS appropriately. It seemed pretty smart to me, so I suspect its rumor since nothing smart ever seemed to come out of Millington in my 11 years.
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Old 12-04-2008, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
Another question ...

My Reentry Code says "NOT APPLICABLE". That surprises me.

Does that mean that I could not come back to active duty?

-Fatty
Mine says "SUCKER!"

j/k--it also says na
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Old 12-05-2008, 05:43 AM
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Fatty... I assume you're coming in for the board today. Good luck! I looked at all the folders, and it looks like we have a great group interviewing.

If you do wind up with problems about your commission, we have at least one other guy that had something like that happen due to a break in service. Ask around, he should be able to help. I forgot who it was, but people know each other's stories well enough so that it shouldn't take much investigation.

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Old 12-05-2008, 08:21 AM
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My re-entry code says NA also...I assumed that was because I went directly to a reserve commission. Maybe it just means no adverse issues.

EDIT: OK, I looked it up. The "RE" is re-enlistment eligibility, which would be N/A for officers.
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