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Old 12-02-2008, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel1030
yeah the breaking of the wings was a big deal down at XL. Forget where the tradition comes from though.
The idea of having your wings pounded into your chest is a long tradition. I know it is a play on words - but I'll bring it up in any case. You guys keep saying "YOU broke them" I take this to mean that you were wearing them and OTHERS pounded you on the chest so many times that the wings eventually broke in half. So in essence - others broke them - you didn't sit there and bend them back and forth in your fingers until they broke did you? This is what happened to mine and I still have them and will problably mount them here in a year or so to remind myself of the good times left behind Even in the video of my SOFT winging - the CO chastises my roommate for hitting me in the chest and he says "ha, ha, ha - just don't do that when you get the real wings" (kill joy)

In any case - for those that didn't have their wings broken - it likely came from the extinction of the act when HAZING became such a big deal in the military quite a few years ago and no form of HAZING in allowed - this includes the pounding of the wings onto your chest by your fellow aviators - or in the case of airborne or others who gain airborne qualification, the infamous 'Bloodwinging" of Marine Recon from a few years back in time.
Heck - even the hosing down with water and fire extinguishers after your last flight makes the radar screen sometimes. It shouldn't be a big deal - but some have made it a big deal and others have taken a time honored tradition and abused it and taken it too far and now you have to look over your shoulder every time and hope that someone important isn't going to take offense.

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Old 12-02-2008, 04:31 PM
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Default Air Force Tradition of Breaking Wings comes from the Air Corps

Breaking of Wings Ceremony


Since man started flying, he has taken to the air with a certain amount of risk. To counter that risk, a tradition was established years ago when the Army Air Corps first started issuing pilot wings to their young aviators. This tradition is called “Breaking of Wings.” At every Undergraduate Pilot Training graduation, the Air Force issues the pilots their first pair of wings. As tradition has it, that first pair of wings should never be worn by the pilot. To bring good luck, the pilot should break the wings into two parts. One half should be kept by the pilot, the other half should be given to the pilot’s best friend or relative. To preserve the good luck, the two halves should never be brought together while the pilot is still alive. After death, the two halves are once again united with the pilot for good luck in the next life.
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Old 12-02-2008, 04:58 PM
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Since man started flying, he has taken to the air with a certain amount of risk. To counter that risk, a tradition was established years ago when the Army Air Corps first started issuing pilot wings to their young aviators. This tradition is called “Breaking of Wings.” At every Undergraduate Pilot Training graduation, the Air Force issues the pilots their first pair of wings. As tradition has it, that first pair of wings should never be worn by the pilot. To bring good luck, the pilot should break the wings into two parts. One half should be kept by the pilot, the other half should be given to the pilot’s best friend or relative. To preserve the good luck, the two halves should never be brought together while the pilot is still alive. After death, the two halves are once again united with the pilot for good luck in the next life.
That is actually very nice - but not a Navy/Marine tradition that I'm aware of at least in recent times. Leave it to the Sea Services to take something like that and turn it into brute force and pain

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Old 12-02-2008, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by blastoff
I'm in AFRC...went to brooks AFTER OTS.
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**** changed recently. You don't swear in or get orders until your medical is certified by Brooks. The AFRC board also will not humor pilot apps that have not completed or been scheduled for Brooks.
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Old 12-03-2008, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Tweetdrvr
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” At every Undergraduate Pilot Training graduation, the Air Force issues the pilots their first pair of wings. As tradition has it, that first pair of wings should never be worn by the pilot. To bring good luck, the pilot should break the wings into two parts. One half should be kept by the pilot, the other half should be given to the pilot’s best friend or relative. To preserve the good luck, the two halves should never be brought together while the pilot is still alive. After death, the two halves are once again united with the pilot for good luck in the next life.
Reese 65G (T-37/T-38) Never heard of this tradition in my USAF career. Must have been asleep.
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Old 12-03-2008, 11:35 AM
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The only piece of advice I have for the medical is; don't admit to anything, make them prove something is wrong.
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Old 12-03-2008, 12:19 PM
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I think the breaking wings was UPT base dependent. Reese in 96 didn't do it. Vance in 00-03 did it.

The Navy /USMC pounding wings in the chest still went on for aircrewmen in 96-00. Although the officers usually left the room and let the senior enlisted handle it. And the prongs weren't exposed.

Yeah, and don't admit to anything on your medical history. Esp atshma or allergies. any allergies.
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Old 12-03-2008, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
The idea of having your wings pounded into your chest is a long tradition. I know it is a play on words - but I'll bring it up in any case. You guys keep saying "YOU broke them" I take this to mean that you were wearing them and OTHERS pounded you on the chest so many times that the wings eventually broke in half. So in essence - others broke them - you didn't sit there and bend them back and forth in your fingers until they broke did you? This is what happened to mine and I still have them and will problably mount them here in a year or so to remind myself of the good times left behind Even in the video of my SOFT winging - the CO chastises my roommate for hitting me in the chest and he says "ha, ha, ha - just don't do that when you get the real wings" (kill joy)

In any case - for those that didn't have their wings broken - it likely came from the extinction of the act when HAZING became such a big deal in the military quite a few years ago and no form of HAZING in allowed - this includes the pounding of the wings onto your chest by your fellow aviators - or in the case of airborne or others who gain airborne qualification, the infamous 'Bloodwinging" of Marine Recon from a few years back in time.
Heck - even the hosing down with water and fire extinguishers after your last flight makes the radar screen sometimes. It shouldn't be a big deal - but some have made it a big deal and others have taken a time honored tradition and abused it and taken it too far and now you have to look over your shoulder every time and hope that someone important isn't going to take offense.

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Dare I ask what "bloodwinging" is?
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Old 12-03-2008, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
Dare I ask what "bloodwinging" is?
Old school stuff. After your wings were pinned on, folks took turns punching them in (minus the backings) until they poked into your skin thus making you bleed. It didn't quit until the blood soaked through your shirt and thus "blood wings". I think that it stopped around the time the aircrew guys video ended up on TV, maybe circa 1997??? I have never seen it or know of anyone that had it done.
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:38 AM
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In the Army blood winging is not allowed, but it still happens for sure. I saw it at my branch night, airborne school, air assault school, and flight school, none of which was all that long ago.
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