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Old 11-16-2008, 07:11 PM
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This is an interesting article on this mighty carrier. Population of 5000? That's more people than my husband's birthplace in Kansas!

From Associated Press:
ABOARD THE USS GEORGE WASHINGTON — Rear Adm. Rick Wren's office is near the flight deck, above the two nuclear reactors. When the mood strikes, he can take a short walk to the bridge and look out at his new neighborhood, though most of the time that's just blue water from horizon to horizon.

Wren has a unique command.

No country in the world has anything like the USS George Washington. It is a floating air base with 67 aircraft ready to fly; it's a city unto itself, with a population of around 5,000; and it's an armory carrying about 4 million pounds of bombs.

Nation & World | The USS George Washington: Top guard dog in the Pacific | Seattle Times Newspaper
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Impressive enough and true, my concern is the Chinese Navy buildup of attack submarines. What would their targets be? Give you a list and the GW will surely be on it, especially in a Taiwan scenario.
Things that make you go hmmmmmmm. As a Naval Aviator, always hated the attack threats from below...

China's largely inactive submarine fleet stirs (1/8/08) -- www.GovernmentExecutive.com

"The Navy has been faulted in some quarters for paying insufficient attention to China's growing maritime power, much of which rests on new submarines. At a House Armed Services Committee hearing Dec. 13, 2007, ranking Republican Duncan Hunter of California said the U.S. Navy risks being eclipsed by China's growing maritime power.
In an exchange with Navy chief Adm. Gary Roughead, Hunter said China was "outstripping us by 3-1 on submarine production, and your own figures show that they are going to eclipse us in submarine numbers in 2011." In response, Roughead said anti-submarine warfare was a top Navy priority."
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Those supercarriers are just unreal.
Just one carrier group is enough to match almost any one country's air force and more.
Makes you put things into perspective
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The GW was the carrier I did my initial CQ on. Never got out of my jet, though, so I can't say what it looks like inside. I'm guessing it looks very similar to the other 3 I've lived on.
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Impressive enough and true, my concern is the Chinese Navy buildup of attack submarines. What would their targets be? Give you a list and the GW will surely be on it, especially in a Taiwan scenario.
Things that make you go hmmmmmmm. As a Naval Aviator, always hated the attack threats from below...

You're telling me, my job is to keep that from happening. Sub launched ASCM's are probably the biggest headache...expands the geography of the problem.
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Originally Posted by SaltyDog
Impressive enough and true, my concern is the Chinese Navy buildup of attack submarines. What would their targets be? Give you a list and the GW will surely be on it, especially in a Taiwan scenario.
Things that make you go hmmmmmmm. As a Naval Aviator, always hated the attack threats from below...
That's why the Navy has guys like my brother sitting outside enemy sub bases below the depths ready to shoot them first... or so I assume. I only know where he goes into port after he gets there, not what he does in between.
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Originally Posted by SaltyDog
Impressive enough and true, my concern is the Chinese Navy buildup of attack submarines. What would their targets be? Give you a list and the GW will surely be on it, especially in a Taiwan scenario.
Things that make you go hmmmmmmm. As a Naval Aviator, always hated the attack threats from below...

China's largely inactive submarine fleet stirs (1/8/08) -- www.GovernmentExecutive.com

"The Navy has been faulted in some quarters for paying insufficient attention to China's growing maritime power, much of which rests on new submarines. At a House Armed Services Committee hearing Dec. 13, 2007, ranking Republican Duncan Hunter of California said the U.S. Navy risks being eclipsed by China's growing maritime power.
In an exchange with Navy chief Adm. Gary Roughead, Hunter said China was "outstripping us by 3-1 on submarine production, and your own figures show that they are going to eclipse us in submarine numbers in 2011." In response, Roughead said anti-submarine warfare was a top Navy priority."
Hope they find a gap between the MH-60R and the new 737-900 platform. It will also have to be carrier based like the S-3 was.
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Hope they find a gap between the MH-60R and the new 737-900 platform. It will also have to be carrier based like the S-3 was.

Whatever gap that needs to be filled(if there is one at all with MMA/60R) won't be filled from any CVN fixed wing assets in the current or future construct of an air wing unless its unmanned or the strike fighter community picks up the ASW mission.
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Whatever gap that needs to be filled(if there is one at all with MMA/60R) won't be filled from any CVN fixed wing assets in the current or future construct of an air wing unless its unmanned or the strike fighter community picks up the ASW mission.
I'm not sure I see a gap. Whether or not an asset is based on a CVN isn't particularly relevant. Romeos (and Firescouts?) can operate off of most CSG combatants to provide closer-in coverage. MMA and BAMs should be able to do the rest.

S-3s were useful for soviet nukes...but the single piece of good news about the diesel/AIP craze is that they can't keep up with or catch a SG in blue water. That means they are only an issue in their own theatre, and MMA and BAMs should have the legs to cover any of the "usual suspect" localities from land bases.
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