Military to Civilian - creating an effective resume
#11
Have you ever heard of these guys? I'm not sure how good they are but they have a strong military background and may be able to help you out.....if your willing shell out some cash. I have no personal experience just saw them on another board a while back.
http://www.emeraldcoastinterviewconsulting.com/
http://www.emeraldcoastinterviewconsulting.com/
#13
Beis77, (and others)
You're getting some really excellent advice here from everyone.
All I would echo is:
1) Emphasize the ground-job stuff, especially as it pertains to safety, instructor, and post-maintenance check flight pilot related positions. Awards.....not air medals! etc., but things like instructor of the year, or selecting to go to a weapons school for your platform are worth mentioning. As stated above don't use acros! Civilianize your titles.
2) For your resume, just list your hours as they appear in your logbook, and if you're worried about it, put "no conversion" afterwards. Again, the HR folks at any carrier know your hours are different from a guy who came up in the civilian training track. Your hours are going to be fine, and you're competitive with any civilian guy......in fact, you're not really "competing" with them, as most companies want a mix of several backgrounds. (Later, you'll find the civilian guys initially running circles around you while you get your feet wet in the airline world!) In the end, you end up the same.......airline pilots.
3) The gist is to be the "humble professional" If your resume looks like you're Buck Rogers, i.e. you are a "patch wearer", etc. and in the interview you say something like, "I was fortunate to be selected to________", you'll be doing fine.
Good luck in your job hunt!!
You're getting some really excellent advice here from everyone.
All I would echo is:
1) Emphasize the ground-job stuff, especially as it pertains to safety, instructor, and post-maintenance check flight pilot related positions. Awards.....not air medals! etc., but things like instructor of the year, or selecting to go to a weapons school for your platform are worth mentioning. As stated above don't use acros! Civilianize your titles.
2) For your resume, just list your hours as they appear in your logbook, and if you're worried about it, put "no conversion" afterwards. Again, the HR folks at any carrier know your hours are different from a guy who came up in the civilian training track. Your hours are going to be fine, and you're competitive with any civilian guy......in fact, you're not really "competing" with them, as most companies want a mix of several backgrounds. (Later, you'll find the civilian guys initially running circles around you while you get your feet wet in the airline world!) In the end, you end up the same.......airline pilots.
3) The gist is to be the "humble professional" If your resume looks like you're Buck Rogers, i.e. you are a "patch wearer", etc. and in the interview you say something like, "I was fortunate to be selected to________", you'll be doing fine.
Good luck in your job hunt!!
#16
I'm at Pope. I flew with the 2nd for about 4 years, and am still hanging out (attached to the 2nd) at Fort Bragg, working as an AMLO (TALO for the old school folks).
How about yourself? Based on your position, can I assume Little Rock?
How about yourself? Based on your position, can I assume Little Rock?
#18
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: DA-40
Posts: 290
Eventually called by all but 2 (Flexjet and Frontier did not call when both were hiring); there were 3 other places that called, but I didn't interview with them since I'd already been hired. (Flight Options, Continental, and one of the crew leasing companies)
Interviewed at 11. Offered jobs at all but 1--got the thanks but no thanks letter there--was my first civilian interview. Got help from Albie after that!!! Ended up taking the job offer from Purple
It's been a while and things have changed a bit on the hiring front. However, your mil experiences translate well--most companies like former mil guys. And if you have ANY experience flying small white planes (C-12s, UC-35s, C-21s, C-23s, etc), there are hundreds of openings that can at least make you some money and stay current while you are waiting for the big guys to call. And if you don't have experience, use the GI Bill to get some ratings--will possibly get you pick up trips (at least) with small corporate flight departments or large FBOs to keep you current in jets/turboprops.
Interviewed at 11. Offered jobs at all but 1--got the thanks but no thanks letter there--was my first civilian interview. Got help from Albie after that!!! Ended up taking the job offer from Purple
It's been a while and things have changed a bit on the hiring front. However, your mil experiences translate well--most companies like former mil guys. And if you have ANY experience flying small white planes (C-12s, UC-35s, C-21s, C-23s, etc), there are hundreds of openings that can at least make you some money and stay current while you are waiting for the big guys to call. And if you don't have experience, use the GI Bill to get some ratings--will possibly get you pick up trips (at least) with small corporate flight departments or large FBOs to keep you current in jets/turboprops.
#20
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: DA-40
Posts: 290
He's the guy that runs/owns the Emerald Coast referenced in an earlier post in this thread.
www.emeraldcoastinterviewconsulting.com
AlbieF15 is his screen name in these forums. He's a regular poster in many of these forums...... Really helpful for military guys that need help or polish to shine at civilian interviews.... He and his people have helped a lot of guys get the necessary interview skills to land a job.
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