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Old 12-10-2016, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Wink
Is a Mesa Captain seat really a noticable difference between an XJT/RAH FO seat? From what my MAG/XJT/RAH friends tell me, it sounds like MAG Captains net the same as XJT/RAH FOs. If I am misinterpreting what I've been told, feel free to correct me.

Additionally, many people have gotten hired at a variety of ACMI/LCC/Legacy airlines without PIC time, so that really isn't a good reason for anyone to accept subpar wages.
Wink, roughly 2 years ago before I got hired out of RAH, many of my fellow long term FO's with no upgrade or respectable CBA in sight made the move to borderline street hire captain status at Mesa. Goes to show just how awful life at RAH was in regards to pay, upgrade ability and QOL. So that was what I saw happening then and why those difficult decisions were made. Now is obviously a different story.

You are correct that PIC time isn't what it used to be years ago. Some pilots will not necessarily need that PIC time due to many different marketability factors, while others may not be as fortunate and need all the extra experience/points that comes with PIC time.
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Old 12-11-2016, 05:09 AM
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For those considering avenues outside of the airlines, the PIC time here is also a way to quickly hit Wyvern/ARGUS mins, which opens a lot of doors.
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Old 12-12-2016, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Santos Dumont
From the info on this very website (except MAGs base pay).

L-XJT 3rd year F.O. pay --> 38x75x12: 34200
RAH 3rd year F.O. pay ---> 43x75x12: 38700
MAG 3rd year CA pay ---> 57 (50 seat base pay)x76x12: 51984

That is a rough estimate assuming these guys are on reserve and don't fly at all. It's up to you to decide if 14,000ish is a noticeable difference.

Also remember that less than a year ago RAH's pay scale was very close to Mesa's. At least I remember the F.O. pay scales were almost identical.

Either way, you don't have to be scientist to realize that if money is the number one priority in your life you shouldn't be looking at Mesa. But there are a few (very, very few) reasons and circumstances, which will make Mesa a reasonable choice. The question is: are there enough of those pilots, who can justify coming to Mesa, to keep the company running?
So what I was told was about correct. The difference is 14k but you're healthcare is a lot more and they have more oppurtunities for soft time.

Hope you guys get the contract you all deserve soon.
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Old 12-13-2016, 07:37 AM
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Sounds like nobody showed up ?!?

*******s!

Senior Guys ? ***?

Junior guys just here for the flash ? Couldn't have stood up for the folks behind you ?

Me me me

Individually, all pilots suck!
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Old 12-14-2016, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by qazWSX
Sounds like nobody showed up ?!?

*******s!

Senior Guys ? ***?

Junior guys just here for the flash ? Couldn't have stood up for the folks behind you ?

Me me me

Individually, all pilots suck!
Probably couldn't afford supplies.
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