Mesa 3.0
06-28-2016, 05:50 PM
#71
Hold my beer, watch this.
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I still think after the last Ejet arrives you will see attrition continue but no new blood to fill those seats. Once that happens Mesa will start to go backwards. Once they start going backwards, you will not be able to stop the wreck that follows this time. Back in 2008 this was happening to Mesa but it stopped because of age 65 being put in place. No safety net this time. Get out now while you can. Unless you know you will get 1000 TPIC you better have a 4 year to get hired at a major or it will be a waste of time. 1000 TPIC won't do you any good with a 2 year unless you are a minority or woman. Then you at least have a slim chance. That 4 year is pretty darn important at the majors right now so get that before you worry about 1000 TPIC.
06-28-2016, 07:11 PM
#72
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I still think after the last Ejet arrives you will see attrition continue but no new blood to fill those seats. Once that happens Mesa will start to go backwards. Once they start going backwards, you will not be able to stop the wreck that follows this time. Back in 2008 this was happening to Mesa but it stopped because of age 65 being put in place. No safety net this time. Get out now while you can. Unless you know you will get 1000 TPIC you better have a 4 year to get hired at a major or it will be a waste of time. 1000 TPIC won't do you any good with a 2 year unless you are a minority or woman. Then you at least have a slim chance. That 4 year is pretty darn important at the majors right now so get that before you worry about 1000 TPIC.
06-28-2016, 07:19 PM
#73
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Are you suggesting in my post I stated TPIC was "unimportant"? My post clearly does not. It only states that there are more important qualifications. TPIC is not as important as it has been in the past.
More pilots are getting hired today without it than any other time. Most of this type of hiring is done by JBLU, Virgin, Alaska, Frontier and a small amount at the Legacy's.
And, not only was AA wrong for what they did to TWA it was also right after 9/11. Those pilots were at the wrong airline at the wrong time.
More pilots are getting hired today without it than any other time. Most of this type of hiring is done by JBLU, Virgin, Alaska, Frontier and a small amount at the Legacy's.
And, not only was AA wrong for what they did to TWA it was also right after 9/11. Those pilots were at the wrong airline at the wrong time.
Having upgraded, and survived my "trial by fire" and being "thrown to the wolves" upgrade, I've found the experience to be an extremely important "rite of passage". It has made me a much better pilot, and couldn't imagine that theres more important criteria, unless the idiot deciding that criteria is not a pilot with any sort of career experience.
06-29-2016, 06:40 AM
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What are these "other more important" qualifications you speak of? If pilots were hiring pilots, the "other" criteria would be out the door.
Having upgraded, and survived my "trial by fire" and being "thrown to the wolves" upgrade, I've found the experience to be an extremely important "rite of passage". It has made me a much better pilot, and couldn't imagine that theres more important criteria, unless the idiot deciding that criteria is not a pilot with any sort of career experience.
Having upgraded, and survived my "trial by fire" and being "thrown to the wolves" upgrade, I've found the experience to be an extremely important "rite of passage". It has made me a much better pilot, and couldn't imagine that theres more important criteria, unless the idiot deciding that criteria is not a pilot with any sort of career experience.
06-29-2016, 10:01 AM
#76
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Also, ground is in PHX and not sure when sims are at these days. Most likely STL or maybe CMH?
06-29-2016, 10:07 AM
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We are really short of FOs in DFW so I would expect IAD or DFW out of training. That could change as the summer flying slows down. Sim could be in PHX but they also use sims in Wisconsin or Minnesota, can't remember which, and Copenhagen but I don't think they're doing Copenhagen anymore.
06-29-2016, 03:01 PM
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We are really short of FOs in DFW so I would expect IAD or DFW out of training. That could change as the summer flying slows down. Sim could be in PHX but they also use sims in Wisconsin or Minnesota, can't remember which, and Copenhagen but I don't think they're doing Copenhagen anymore.
06-29-2016, 06:19 PM
#80
sippin' dat koolaid
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skipping the upgrade and jumping to another regional doesn't make sense. Especially if the majors decide to park the 50 seaters at an accelerated rate. All it takes is the economy to tank or another terrorist attack for the music to stop >again<. Then the 1000 pic will be worth its weight in gold >again<. I know a lot of you weren't around when it was extremely hard to even get a regional job.
Also, and I can't believe nobody ever mentions this, being a captain and running the show is fun and enjoyable
(unless you're one of those submissive types who enjoys being told what to do)
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