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Old 06-08-2019, 12:55 PM
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The Stockholm Syndrome is strong with this group.

Do heart, brain, and neurosurgeons have a 'regional' that pays them a small fraction of the wages that their counterparts make? Is there some entity that 'chooses' whether they are ever worthy enough to make true professional wages - long AFTER they pass all the necessary tests to reach that level of their profession? Does this 'regional' also have the ability to keep a large percentage of these surgeons at this level - for obvious cost-saving measures - enabling the execs and shareholders to keep the money that they otherwise would have used to pay this 'regional' bank of professional surgeons?

Of course not. No surgeon in their right mind would jump through all the hoops to reach that level of their profession, only to make supermarket-manager wages.

Would lawyers endure this? Hell no.

On a really bad day, a surgeon can kill ONE person on the operating table. On that same really bad day, a lawyer can make a mistake costing a client a lot of money - or undeserved jail time. But even on the worst of days, the lawyer doesn't kill anyone.

Pilots who - for only one day - fail to bring their 'A' game can kill hundreds. Every day, pilots do things that potentially save lives.

Many lives

Ever run the numbers on the cost of ONE human life - from an insurer's standpoint?

Point - we've allowed them to do this to us. Our skill-set is worth a LOT more, yet many of us spend our entire career at a regional . . . making pennies-on-the-dollar . . . telling anyone who will listen to us that we're "very fairly compensated."

I've heard this a million times, and nothing could be further from the truth. Yes, our retirement money is being systematically stolen from us. We will never get these years back. The other side has done such a great job convincing us that our skills are only worth $85K per year, they have several of you on this forum making their argument FOR them . . . and ridiculing me.

I can hear them laughing at you now.

But by all means, keep repeating the phrase, "I believe I'm fairly compensated." Then get back to me after you retire, and we'll continue this conversation
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Old 06-08-2019, 01:51 PM
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Do you work here? Then you are part of the problem you describe. So fix yourself. I learned a long time ago you can’t fix others.

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The Stockholm Syndrome is strong with this group.

Do heart, brain, and neurosurgeons have a 'regional' that pays them a small fraction of the wages that their counterparts make? Is there some entity that 'chooses' whether they are ever worthy enough to make true professional wages - long AFTER they pass all the necessary tests to reach that level of their profession? Does this 'regional' also have the ability to keep a large percentage of these surgeons at this level - for obvious cost-saving measures - enabling the execs and shareholders to keep the money that they otherwise would have used to pay this 'regional' bank of professional surgeons?

Of course not. No surgeon in their right mind would jump through all the hoops to reach that level of their profession, only to make supermarket-manager wages.

Would lawyers endure this? Hell no.

On a really bad day, a surgeon can kill ONE person on the operating table. On that same really bad day, a lawyer can make a mistake costing a client a lot of money - or undeserved jail time. But even on the worst of days, the lawyer doesn't kill anyone.

Pilots who - for only one day - fail to bring their 'A' game can kill hundreds. Every day, pilots do things that potentially save lives.

Many lives

Ever run the numbers on the cost of ONE human life - from an insurer's standpoint?

Point - we've allowed them to do this to us. Our skill-set is worth a LOT more, yet many of us spend our entire career at a regional . . . making pennies-on-the-dollar . . . telling anyone who will listen to us that we're "very fairly compensated."

I've heard this a million times, and nothing could be further from the truth. Yes, our retirement money is being systematically stolen from us. We will never get these years back. The other side has done such a great job convincing us that our skills are only worth $85K per year, they have several of you on this forum making their argument FOR them . . . and ridiculing me.

I can hear them laughing at you now.

But by all means, keep repeating the phrase, "I believe I'm fairly compensated." Then get back to me after you retire, and we'll continue this conversation
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Do you work here? Then you are part of the problem you describe. So fix yourself. I learned a long time ago you can’t fix others.
Definitely one of the most ignorant comments I've ever seen on this forum.
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Brody
The Stockholm Syndrome is strong with this group.



Do heart, brain, and neurosurgeons have a 'regional' that pays them a small fraction of the wages that their counterparts make? Is there some entity that 'chooses' whether they are ever worthy enough to make true professional wages - long AFTER they pass all the necessary tests to reach that level of their profession? Does this 'regional' also have the ability to keep a large percentage of these surgeons at this level - for obvious cost-saving measures - enabling the execs and shareholders to keep the money that they otherwise would have used to pay this 'regional' bank of professional surgeons?



Of course not. No surgeon in their right mind would jump through all the hoops to reach that level of their profession, only to make supermarket-manager wages.



Would lawyers endure this? Hell no.



On a really bad day, a surgeon can kill ONE person on the operating table. On that same really bad day, a lawyer can make a mistake costing a client a lot of money - or undeserved jail time. But even on the worst of days, the lawyer doesn't kill anyone.



Pilots who - for only one day - fail to bring their 'A' game can kill hundreds. Every day, pilots do things that potentially save lives.



Many lives



Ever run the numbers on the cost of ONE human life - from an insurer's standpoint?



Point - we've allowed them to do this to us. Our skill-set is worth a LOT more, yet many of us spend our entire career at a regional . . . making pennies-on-the-dollar . . . telling anyone who will listen to us that we're "very fairly compensated."



I've heard this a million times, and nothing could be further from the truth. Yes, our retirement money is being systematically stolen from us. We will never get these years back. The other side has done such a great job convincing us that our skills are only worth $85K per year, they have several of you on this forum making their argument FOR them . . . and ridiculing me.



I can hear them laughing at you now.



But by all means, keep repeating the phrase, "I believe I'm fairly compensated." Then get back to me after you retire, and we'll continue this conversation


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Old 06-09-2019, 04:43 AM
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Just out of curiosity, what are you guys crediting a month on both CRJ and ERJ side? Trying to do my homework is all
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Old 06-09-2019, 08:20 AM
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[QUOTE=FTN616;2834104]A man who only complains is a slave to his own situation. A man who proposes and acts on a solution is a leader and pioneer. Which one are you?



Thanks, Socrates, for the intellectual riddle.

I shall ponder that one for awhile.

Meanwhile, you may resume licking the boots of those who pretend to have a valid reason to keep you in poverty . . . as you vehemently defend them
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Old 06-09-2019, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
Just out of curiosity, what are you guys crediting a month on both CRJ and ERJ side? Trying to do my homework is all
I think most people are pushing 85+ On the CRJ. MagPbs probably has the actual average.

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Old 06-09-2019, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Brody
Definitely one of the most ignorant comments I've ever seen on this forum.
And all the rest are made by you. You’re a total tool, and THAT is most likely your career obstruction. “The CPP is a total joke” is the mantra of those who aren’t selected. For some people, the CPP is the best $hit that ever happened. I’m gonna go with the latter.
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Old 06-09-2019, 01:54 PM
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Why no talk of this massive satellite outage that’s cancelled about 200 YV flights today and more for other carriers?
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Old 06-09-2019, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
Just out of curiosity, what are you guys crediting a month on both CRJ and ERJ side? Trying to do my homework is all
CRJ
Last few months as FO: 93-97 no open time pickup.

Ca - 90, 97, 136

FO in SDF are not flying much. Every other base is.
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