Mesa 3.0
06-12-2018, 07:41 AM
#5861
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 105
(Every airline) except Allegiant. :-)
Thank you for the tutorial. I appreciate you
and your teams efforts on our behalf.
I wish we had more 28 hour 4-days (like some of our competition) and fewer two leg days in the middle. I would like to have a 12 day working month (and 18 days off per month) like some of my friends at other regionals.
My biggest complaint about flying at Mesa deal with its inept ability for the training department to get pilots to the line, and what that inept ability does to the QOL for line pilots.
Thank you for the tutorial. I appreciate you
and your teams efforts on our behalf.
I wish we had more 28 hour 4-days (like some of our competition) and fewer two leg days in the middle. I would like to have a 12 day working month (and 18 days off per month) like some of my friends at other regionals.
My biggest complaint about flying at Mesa deal with its inept ability for the training department to get pilots to the line, and what that inept ability does to the QOL for line pilots.
Says the pilot who likes to lick the boots of his bosses.
Apparently, we can now add Mesa's MEC to that list.
So what exactly do you appreciate? The wage disparity? How about the FO starting pay that actually DECREASES during the life of the contract? The disproportionately-high cost of mediocre medical and dental insurance? The consistently unproductive pairings?
And then there's reserve. Base assisting on a random basis? Airport standby on a regular basis?
Oh, here's one . . . the MEC is suing Mesa in federal court for paying bonuses to new-hire pilots without negotiating said bonuses with ALPA first, while simultaneously taking union 'dues' out of these same bonuses when they're paid to a pilot.
I could go on and on. The company is holding all the cards. The pilots are begging for scraps. The 'union' is taking 'protection' money from our paychecks - ostensibly to 'protect' us from all this.
Except they're not.
What a deal, huh?
06-12-2018, 08:55 AM
#5862
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2017
Posts: 129
Pairing 101.
Unless you manage to do a hub to hub leg so where the following holds true.
1. First and last day will always be an odd number of legs. You either start at a hub and end at an outstation or start at an outstation and end at a hub.
2. All middle days will be an even number of legs. You start and end at an outstation.
3. Every day but the last is dictated by where we overnight crews and what flights we have to that city. Crew staging for overnights is the #1 driver of mid-trip days.
So if Mesa only services a city twice a day. Say the late night/early morning flight and then one at noon. Your crew swap has to happen at the noon flight.
This is the same at every airline.
Unless you manage to do a hub to hub leg so where the following holds true.
1. First and last day will always be an odd number of legs. You either start at a hub and end at an outstation or start at an outstation and end at a hub.
2. All middle days will be an even number of legs. You start and end at an outstation.
3. Every day but the last is dictated by where we overnight crews and what flights we have to that city. Crew staging for overnights is the #1 driver of mid-trip days.
So if Mesa only services a city twice a day. Say the late night/early morning flight and then one at noon. Your crew swap has to happen at the noon flight.
This is the same at every airline.
06-12-2018, 04:03 PM
#5863
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 2,145
Says the pilot who likes to lick the boots of his bosses.
Apparently, we can now add Mesa's MEC to that list.
So what exactly do you appreciate? The wage disparity? How about the FO starting pay that actually DECREASES during the life of the contract? The disproportionately-high cost of mediocre medical and dental insurance? The consistently unproductive pairings?
And then there's reserve. Base assisting on a random basis? Airport standby on a regular basis?
Oh, here's one . . . the MEC is suing Mesa in federal court for paying bonuses to new-hire pilots without negotiating said bonuses with ALPA first, while simultaneously taking union 'dues' out of these same bonuses when they're paid to a pilot.
I could go on and on. The company is holding all the cards. The pilots are begging for scraps. The 'union' is taking 'protection' money from our paychecks - ostensibly to 'protect' us from all this.
Except they're not.
What a deal, huh?
Apparently, we can now add Mesa's MEC to that list.
So what exactly do you appreciate? The wage disparity? How about the FO starting pay that actually DECREASES during the life of the contract? The disproportionately-high cost of mediocre medical and dental insurance? The consistently unproductive pairings?
And then there's reserve. Base assisting on a random basis? Airport standby on a regular basis?
Oh, here's one . . . the MEC is suing Mesa in federal court for paying bonuses to new-hire pilots without negotiating said bonuses with ALPA first, while simultaneously taking union 'dues' out of these same bonuses when they're paid to a pilot.
I could go on and on. The company is holding all the cards. The pilots are begging for scraps. The 'union' is taking 'protection' money from our paychecks - ostensibly to 'protect' us from all this.
Except they're not.
What a deal, huh?
Except for the lawsuit, which the MEC lost, complaints like that exist at every regional. My buddy at SKW complains he hasn’t flown in 6 months and has to get current in the SIM. And, SKW pays $2 per hour for FO’s, has better insurance, but base assist and don’t have block or better. No 300%. At all regionals, management holds the cards - just look to the complaints at other regionals.
I routinely refer pilots to check out other regionals. If I was doing it over, I might have gone to COMPASS. Why haven’t you moved on if you hate it here that much? Envoy is taking FO’s with 950 hours 121 time into their street captain program, paying them $45k signing bonus, putting them on the 145 in LGA.
06-13-2018, 08:56 AM
#5866
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 2,145
Yeah, it takes a long time to get to a point as a CA at Mesa where one can stop complaining about the schedule they get. And, with Mesa’s contract on bidding as a CA from aircraft to aircraft, it makes life as a CA on the CRJ pretty crappy because of all the senior CA’s on the CRJ.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
