Mesa 3.0
04-25-2018, 07:11 PM
#5751
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Well, we don’t need that hangar when Republic takes the Ejets that we have sitting in IAH. Plus, Republic is planning to open a MX base in IAH - they need the hangar.
I doubt United is about to “can” Mesa if they just signed the CPP. But, Mesa was opening a base in ATL before yesterday and now it isn’t. Strange industry full of liers.
I doubt United is about to “can” Mesa if they just signed the CPP. But, Mesa was opening a base in ATL before yesterday and now it isn’t. Strange industry full of liers.
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04-26-2018, 03:11 AM
#5752
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Industry full of liars yes. Was/is ATL ever going to happen ... of course not. Does the CPP mean one single person is really going to get to United any faster ... don’t hold your breath. But, if you look at the things that really are happening, the one truth is that there’s a bad moon a rising for Mesa, especially on the United side. And, don’t be surprised when the same thing happens in DFW not long afterwards with SkyWest muscling their way in. Mesa is in a tug of war that they’re losing, and management has no answers.
I just don’t think the CPP will ever be implemented. United isn’t going to help the American system. No other regional in the CPP has proposed allowing American-based pilots access to the program - only Mesa.
I guess it is possible a compromise will be worked out, but I see the CPP going the way of ATL. It will be dangled out there for 6 months, and then die.
04-26-2018, 03:50 AM
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Well, if the CPP is ever implemented here like it is at Xjet, then yes, guys will get to United much more. United currently takes 60% of their new hires through the CPP. With increased United hiring, that 60% has to expand.
I just don’t think the CPP will ever be implemented. United isn’t going to help the American system. No other regional in the CPP has proposed allowing American-based pilots access to the program - only Mesa.
I guess it is possible a compromise will be worked out, but I see the CPP going the way of ATL. It will be dangled out there for 6 months, and then die.
I just don’t think the CPP will ever be implemented. United isn’t going to help the American system. No other regional in the CPP has proposed allowing American-based pilots access to the program - only Mesa.
I guess it is possible a compromise will be worked out, but I see the CPP going the way of ATL. It will be dangled out there for 6 months, and then die.
04-26-2018, 03:56 AM
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04-26-2018, 04:29 AM
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You can't do that here. THe big differnce between CPP and ATL is CPP has United's name on it and required negotiations and approval from United. ATL is a Mesa decision all the way.
04-26-2018, 05:12 AM
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That's because the CRJ's never flew for UA. You could seperate the requirements at ExpressJet by aircraft type.
You can't do that here. THe big differnce between CPP and ATL is CPP has United's name on it and required negotiations and approval from United. ATL is a Mesa decision all the way.
You can't do that here. THe big differnce between CPP and ATL is CPP has United's name on it and required negotiations and approval from United. ATL is a Mesa decision all the way.
I don’t see United as the bottleneck to the CPP being rolled out to UAX based pilots at Mesa either, I see Mesa as the bottleneck.
04-26-2018, 11:36 AM
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XJT is 25%.
Air Wisconsin hasn’t been publicly released, nor has CommutAir.
Lufthansa’s flight school in Phoenix doesn’t have a specific number, but it’s single digit numbers of pilots so far. Mesa’s amount is TBD or being kept a secret.
Where did you get 60% from?? You honestly think United is going to limit the rest of their options down to 40% for military and OTS?
The only people to make it to UAL via the CPP so far have been XJT and Commutair, as well as a small handful of Lufthansa CFIs. Air Wisconsin hasn’t sent a single pilot yet. A far cry from 60%.
Air Wisconsin hasn’t been publicly released, nor has CommutAir.
Lufthansa’s flight school in Phoenix doesn’t have a specific number, but it’s single digit numbers of pilots so far. Mesa’s amount is TBD or being kept a secret.
Where did you get 60% from?? You honestly think United is going to limit the rest of their options down to 40% for military and OTS?
The only people to make it to UAL via the CPP so far have been XJT and Commutair, as well as a small handful of Lufthansa CFIs. Air Wisconsin hasn’t sent a single pilot yet. A far cry from 60%.
04-26-2018, 11:42 AM
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XJT is 25%.
Air Wisconsin hasn’t been publicly released, nor has CommutAir. Lufthansa’s flight school in Phoenix doesn’t have a specific number, but it’s single digit numbers of pilots so far. Mesa’s amount is TBD or being kept a secret.
Where did you get 60% from?? You honestly think United is going to limit the rest of their options down to 40% for military and OTS?
Air Wisconsin hasn’t been publicly released, nor has CommutAir. Lufthansa’s flight school in Phoenix doesn’t have a specific number, but it’s single digit numbers of pilots so far. Mesa’s amount is TBD or being kept a secret.
Where did you get 60% from?? You honestly think United is going to limit the rest of their options down to 40% for military and OTS?
And, I don’t think United limits their options at all. They take pilots where they can get them.
What I do know is that very, very few pilots come out of non-CPP partners. For example, SkyWest publishes where their pilots go and only 1% go to United.
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