MagPBS

Use to be all the time, and we warned people not to get use to it. Not how it was prior to the re-start of hiring and didn't expect it to continue.

Pos Rate

Mesa Airlines Accused of Illegally Withholding Wages to Cover Pilot Training Costs

https://www.classaction.org/news/mes...training-costs

pca2010

So there is a new hire contract going on these days?

Pos Rate

There was one when I stared (Aug 2017). I don't know if they have one now. May be someone in training now can shed some light on it.

calmwinds

There is training contract for upgrading captains or pilots for switching jets.

For new hires, there is a signing bonus contract, where the bonus is paid following IOE, which must be repaid if you leave earlier than its 2-year term. Nearly the same deal as all the other regionals offering signing bonuses.

The plaintiff in this case was employed by Mesa in Dec 2014 and left in Nov 2015. The agreement would be different than what has been signed recently.

MysteriousMrX

Not sure if there's been any downgrades… several have left as Captains and returned to Mesa, as FOs, obviously.. for whatever reason.
One went to Omni and apparently can make more at Mesa, so he returned. Another went to Kalitta and either failed training or left (depends whose story you go with…)

Standards should be equal or higher than any airline, but plenty of captains have said if they were failed on AQP, they'd quit in a heartbeat. So Mesa's approach to AQP needs to be evaluated: if they're being unreasonable, that's no good. If they're being reasonable but tough, that's good.
Several people have failed upgrade training and therefore kept their job as FO.. haven't heard what they're failing on however (oral? sim? IOE? no idea, truthfully.. I see these people around but obviously can't ask them, "So what the hell happened? lol)

NovemberBravo

I just did AQP FEDs are sitting in on it more often. If you go prepared you’ll be fine if you’ve struggled before and know you are still borderline you’ll fail.

journey2

So what are they doing to the guys that fail AQP?

NovemberBravo

I think thats a case by case thing. I know some have gotten retraining I only know of one that got a downgrade.

VASBYT

If I interview with Mesa, how far out is the conditional valid for? I am shy 300 toward the 1500. Is it a 6 or 12 month conditional? If 6, I will interview in March. Also, when do you get to pick base?