BeatNavy

Several major airlines have strike preparedness committees and they won't get released either. That's not the point. Informational picketing has occurred at several airlines who are all on a similar timeline as Mesa with rejected TAs. I don't work at mesa anymore, but I know how slow they are to react, which is the exact reason informational picketing should be organized. You kind of made my point. It's ok, keep your head in the sand, keep drinking the koolaid, and keep enjoying the worst contract in the industry while defending those responsible for it.

Navmode

Again, what koolaid drinking? All I said is there are certain avenues that aren't available at the moment. And why are you even worried about the situation if you don't work here anymore?

deltajuliet

Great guy. Glad for him.

BeatNavy

Morbid curiosity into the current happenings at my last employer. Waiting for the implosion. I enjoy watching the train wrecks like going sterile also. Good cheap entertainment while sitting in a crashpad.

HardLemonade

Cheers to that, brother! I get a front row seat to Mesa's implosion these days. You should hear the things DFW managers have to say about them. I'm not talking about Envoy here...actual DFW airport and ramp managers. It's hilarious actually.

20sx

2 LOAs on hotels and scheduling are about to come out...it looks like they are playing ball. Negotiations 1-2/month. Negotiations with the current group started March/April. This doesn't look like stall tactics to me. When we get to the money part, then we'll see the "prolonged negotiations."

BeatNavy

Delta turned down their TA about a month or so before mesa did. Most of theirs is already renegotiated, and many of the sections have been presented to the pilot group. You almost have 2 LOAs? The company is on the verge of the second most dire manning crisis in its history and you all have the most leverage you've ever had, with the rest of your peers all attaining accelerated bumps to pay, bonuses, great commuter accomodations, and flows, and you are still letting JO drag out a bankruptcy contract stemming partly from the effects of the last manning crisis. It's been almost a year and you haven't even hit the hard parts. Good luck.

Jvw700

I don't work for Mesa and don't really care but I find it a little ironic reading your posts. You are also responsible for perpetuating the terrible contract having worked there! Guess what happens if nobody signs up to work for Mesa? How long were you at Mesa? A year, maybe 2? Were you part of the quick upgrade crowd?
You're at B6 now correct? So you used Mesa exactly how JO wanted you to, get in, get out..... This is why Mesa will continue to exist.

BeatNavy

I lived in a base only attainable at Mesa and didn't want to commute to a (at the time) only slightly better company with a bunch of kids at home. No, didn't upgrade at Mesa. Got out about the time I could have upgraded. I always say do what's best for each person's individual circumstances (minus scabbing of course). Mesa got me for 18 months of cheap labor. I guess if you say they used me and I used them that wouldn't be wrong. But i would have been worse off at any other airline I would have had to commute to. I drove to work, got the experience I needed to get on at a real airline, and flew with some good people along the way. Oh and I voted no and urged others to as well. My being there 18 months didn't really perpetuate the bad contract. Supply and demand, changing market conditions and a dynamic regional environment with the quick upgrade train and movement kept classes full. It's a house of cards that I consistently said wasn't sustainable without substantial contractual and pay improvements. Don't see the irony in it.

Jvw700

No new hires equals better contract. I don't care if you worked there or not, your choice. You perpetuated the bad contract by simply showing up and working there 18 months. You seem like a good guy, glad you made it out! Unfortunate that JO operates this way...