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Old 08-15-2017, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by squawkoff
Maybe because they hired anybody and everybody over the phone?
The 1500 hour rule was never about experience, it was about ensuring both people legally met the requirements to hold an ATP and PIC type on the aircraft. JO is hand picking data to support his claims.
What if I was to tell you that the majority of failures are from older people deciding to start a new career in aviation? People who slowly over many years worked up to the requirements? Of course a young kid, with a fresh wet commercial, emergenging from flight school is going to do better in training with fewer issues. That's the only environment they've been exposed to for the past two to three years.
Throw them to the wild so they can time build, how they time build determines how ready they will be. Have they been flying a turboprop in a crew environment? Single pilot IFR? They'll do awesome. Carrying sky jumpers up to 7000 ft at an uncontrolled airport for the past five years? Not so much!
And let's face it, people who have failed out multiple times at other 121 carriers will get another chance at Mesa.
Back when JO could be selective as he wanted, with a never ending surplus of pilots, sure, you could mathematically make his argument, but it is completely out of context today.
The 1500 hour rule also needed to stipulate how people got to their 1500 hours to really be effective at the purpose of guaranteeing experience
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Old 08-15-2017, 07:12 PM
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From the article...
No one can argue that by reducing service you are pushing people into their cars, and they are killed 100 times as often. You have a moral obligation to repeal this law, because it is injuring people.
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Hahahahahaha. Ha.
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Old 08-16-2017, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Sennant
Keep in mind that's based off who's online right now. That doesn't mean in say 3 months when someone is hired today gets off training the answer will Be the same.
We're really short in DFW he'll still get a line right away.
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Old 08-16-2017, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by P Owed Captain
Has anybody noticed these crazy 5-legs-on-the-first-day trips that have popped up for September?? I guess the company figures we need to work harder for that joke pittance we've received in the new contract.
Not sure where you're based bUT that has been the norm in IAD for few months now
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Old 08-16-2017, 07:00 PM
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-Jonathan Ornstein

Hahahahahaha. Ha.
Man, I cant believe the courts or whoever even listen to this JO guy. His eye color must be changing to brown by now cuz he full of ***t
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Old 08-16-2017, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo
We're really short in DFW he'll still get a line right away.
Thanks! I'm looking forward to an easy commute and no reserve. But yeah, what is true today may not hold tomorrow. Flexibility is the key to air power!
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Old 08-17-2017, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by frankgh
Thanks! I'm looking forward to an easy commute and no reserve. But yeah, what is true today may not hold tomorrow. Flexibility is the key to air power!
I think it's a safe bet you won't have to worry about being on reserve, unless another 9/11 happens or a stock market crash.
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Old 08-18-2017, 12:54 PM
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Nice going MAGALPA. Implementation of this sorry excuse for a contract is slower and confusing. Not to mention your last FASTREAD about hotels is the same type of message you sent on multiple occasions regarding the awful properties. NOTHING HAS CHANGED EXCEPT FOR PAYRATES!!! And the pay rates are still lower than other airlines. You have brought the industry down again and I feel sorry for other airlines negotiating 900 and 175 payrates.
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Old 08-18-2017, 07:37 PM
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Compass announced PHX today
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Old 08-18-2017, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ShooterMcGavin
Compass announced PHX today
I know a guy who used to be in management at PDT before the US/AA merger. He told me over 3 years ago now that AA wanted the 175 in PHX and that PDT was going to be the likely ones to do the flying. He was half correct I suppose.
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