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Old 07-10-2017, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Inop2
FYI - a lot of my class has left Mesa since last year. Going to other regionals/135/etc. Some received a phone call/email regarding the required training expense that was shifted to the employee and others nothing. Those contacted either didn't respond or expressed their desire to have Mesa eat the cost. I'm speaking a little above my pay grade but getting a financially broke FO to pay back $17k is a waste of time. Also- google the case of the city of Los Angeles and the training expenses/contract for LAPD officers. Pilots are specifically mentioned as an example. You come to your own conclusion. I'm not a lawyer and not saying Mesa's contract is illegal but it does shed light on what may be a very marginal agreement. In total...I wouldn't let the possibly illegal letter stop me from getting out of a demoralizing work environment/company that will probably always lag the industry and is not respected by the major airlines I wanted to work for in the future. Don't be afraid to leave. Move on... it's easy in today's regional industry.... that will change and you could be stuck there.
Agree, I'll say it again a judgement isn't worth more then the paper it was printed on. Wipe your a$$ with it because it nothing more then toilet paper.
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Old 07-10-2017, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Inop2
FYIIn total...I wouldn't let the possibly illegal letter stop me from getting out of a demoralizing work environment/company that will probably always lag the industry and is not respected by the major airlines I wanted to work for in the future. Don't be afraid to leave. Move on... it's easy in today's regional industry.... that will change and you could be stuck there.
No one at the majors cares which regional you came from, pick your poison, they all suck.

To say one regional vs another is shunned just isn't true. Most legacy pilots don't even pay attention to whats happening/who's paying the best/who's in bankrupty etc etc at the regional level.
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Old 07-10-2017, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 175drvr
No one at the majors cares which regional you came from, pick your poison, they all suck.

To say one regional vs another is shunned just isn't true. Most legacy pilots don't even pay attention to whats happening/who's paying the best/who's in bankrupty etc etc at the regional level.
Saying all regionals suck is just not true and not my experience at all. One example is commuting. At Mesa, commuting to work was uncertain. Working for a wholly owned AA regional I'm on the same level as a 777 Capt. I see Mesa guys sitting at the gate but I'm getting on. I could list several other examples. Some small differences and some significant. You want to compare health insurance benefits? Let the numbers speak for themselves. My wife just flew ATL to LAX... First Class. Happens fairly often. AAG gave every employee 2 positive space tickets anywhere in the world they fly as a token of appreciation for the ATW award. I'm saying all this to give you a few examples that your comment is just not true. You deserve better than anything JO will cobble together. Moving on is not right for everyone but an excellent choice for many.
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Old 07-10-2017, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 175drvr
No one at the majors cares which regional you came from, pick your poison, they all suck.

To say one regional vs another is shunned just isn't true. Most legacy pilots don't even pay attention to whats happening/who's paying the best/who's in bankrupty etc etc at the regional level.
You come to your own conclusion. Ask any new hire FO at a major or legacy what the composition of his class was. Mesa is not mentioned. It's military, ExpressJet and other regionals.
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Old 07-11-2017, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 175drvr
No one at the majors cares which regional you came from
Quite the emphatic statement. And you know this how?
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Old 07-11-2017, 05:43 AM
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So what was the union call about?
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Old 07-11-2017, 06:57 AM
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Old 07-11-2017, 07:43 AM
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Regardless of whether you voted yes or no, the following items will be true.

1. Those that can vote but didn't are part of the problem.
2. The outcome is the result of a majority voice.
3. If your side didn't win, *****ing; moaning; complaining won't change the outcome.
4. We all need to step up together and move forward with what comes next.
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:12 AM
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4. We all need to step up together and move forward with what comes next.
Did they allude to a 'no' or something?
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:29 AM
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So what was the union call about?
Yesterday's was about TA questions. Not many people asking, at least when I had to leave.
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