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07-08-2017, 03:11 PM

#4651

Monocoupe

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If the TA is indeed voted down, what prevents the Company from using the funds allocated from the TA to start offering higher new hire bonuses to attract pilots, leaving the current pilots high and dry with dragged out negotiations/mediation?

07-08-2017, 03:22 PM

#4652

Sennant

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Originally Posted by Monocoupe

Nothing.

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07-08-2017, 03:48 PM

#4653

deltajuliet

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More attrition. They realize that even though they're getting applicants, they're still losing net pilots and it's not cost effective to constantly replace their workforce. Increasing new hire bonuses yields diminishing returns.

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07-08-2017, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by squawkoff

Won't know that until they update the seniority list just prior to PBS bidding.

I talked to an FO yesterday that was hired June 2015 and it was his last day. Going to GoJet.

I guess I haven't noticed how often the seniority list is updated. But, it seems overdue. I wonder if the delay in updating it is intentional. I see pilots on the list that I know are gone.

07-08-2017, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by calmwinds

I guess I haven't noticed how often the seniority list is updated. But, it seems overdue. I wonder if the delay in updating it is intentional. I see pilots on the list that I know are gone.

They used to update several times a month but about 3 months ago they only update it just before PBS bidding.

I've been here just under 2 years and I've moved up 404 numbers. I have no idea how many have left that are junior to me.

07-08-2017, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by squawkoff

Ok. So, it should be updated this week.

07-08-2017, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MagPBS

This was talked about last nite at the pub event. Mesa is going after people and winning, regardless of where they live. It az law since that's where your employer is.

If they are default judgements all that means is no one contested the suit. Plaintiff wins by default. How has Mesa fared when an employee has been the plaintiff? Was that discussed at the pub?

07-08-2017, 06:56 PM

#4658

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If they are default judgements all that means is no one contested the suit. Plaintiff wins by default. How has Mesa fared when an employee has been the plaintiff? Was that discussed at the pub?

He lost. That was the discussion. Pilot lived in Texas. He lost.

07-08-2017, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MagPBS

He lost. That was the discussion. Pilot lived in Texas. He lost.

So life goes on. A judgement is placed big deal. That's when the real negotiation begins. Give them a take it or level it offer. They will take because they know something is better then nothing.

07-08-2017, 11:27 PM

#4660

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Originally Posted by stbloc

So life goes on. A judgement is placed big deal. That's when the real negotiation begins. Give them a take it or level it offer. They will take because they know something is better then nothing.

Big deal? How about paying Mesa's legal fee's? No thankyou!