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Old 06-14-2017, 11:58 AM
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Vote how you feel not what they tell you. Glad you guys are really reading this contract.
We agree and thank everyone for reading this TA thoroughly, as well.
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Cloud 9
It's amazing how everyone who doesn't work here anymore wants to give their $0.02 about voting no, when your not paying my bills. The struggle is real for us Mesa pilots.
I dont wanna come off negative or be insensitive to wats going on there....but ur sitting in it and expecting different result. I have a family to take care of and there is no way I would sit at Mesa for too long with wats going on there, especially healthcare. As much as commuting is a bytc# i would rather commute to a different regional. #allergictoBS
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Old 06-14-2017, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wt93205
From reading your comments you are the typical pilot backstabber. You don't care what you leave behind as long as you benefit. This is how Mesa became Mesa. You would have fit in well at Freedom. You are the same type of pilot that made the same bed you sleep in now. You can continue the trend or you can stand up and fix it. I bet you complain a lot but yet do nothing...
Uh-huh, and you don't work at Mesa anymore, talking with other pilots actually working the line. You don't get the sense of how current pilots feel about the new pay rates. I do. And from what I see, people are actually pretty satisfied for the most part.

Why wait X amount of years of more negotiations which may or may not (most likely not) give us a better contract, when we can get something close to industry standard within a few weeks.
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Old 06-14-2017, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Out Of Trim
We've waited so long that to wait just a little longer while watching Mesa reluctantly man-up will be well worth it IMO.
How much longer? Like a few months? Years? How much longer are you willing to wait? As far as you know, we could go from offering $30k newhire bonuses to furloughs in a matter of months.
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Old 06-14-2017, 12:02 PM
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section 11-c
are we now getting paid for all segments of training for each day now?
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Old 06-14-2017, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by airflight999
Uh-huh, and you don't work at Mesa anymore, talking with other pilots actually working the line. You don't get the sense of how current pilots feel about the new pay rates. I do. And from what I see, people are actually pretty satisfied for the most part.

Why wait X amount of years of more negotiations which may or may not (most likely not) give us a better contract, when we can get something close to industry standard within a few weeks.
You are obviously new to the industry and have no idea how negotiations work. I hope your yes vote gets canceled out.
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Old 06-14-2017, 12:05 PM
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also, 11d3,
does this mean phx pilots will now be allowed to get paid hotels in phx while training for aqp in phx
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Old 06-14-2017, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by airflight999
Uh-huh, and you don't work at Mesa anymore, talking with other pilots actually working the line. You don't get the sense of how current pilots feel about the new pay rates. I do. And from what I see, people are actually pretty satisfied for the most part.

Why wait X amount of years of more negotiations which may or may not (most likely not) give us a better contract, when we can get something close to industry standard within a few weeks.
I keep in touch with plenty to know what is going on. I also was under that "sense" for almost 14 years and no one was ever "satisfied"...
LOL. Excuses, excuses. Try again.
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Old 06-14-2017, 12:07 PM
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section 11-c
are we now getting paid for all segments of training for each day now?
All days of AQP are paid, and all other training events are paid by Section 11-C
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Old 06-14-2017, 12:09 PM
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We will see
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