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06-14-2017, 11:35 AM

#4301

85guy

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Joined APC: Mar 2016

Position: captain

Posts: 53

5-b-9-a-16 fails to also include canada

06-14-2017, 11:36 AM

#4302

wt93205

Hold my beer, watch this.

Joined APC: Aug 2012

Position: Airbus Pilot

Posts: 246

Quote:

Originally Posted by airflight999

You're not at Mesa anymore so your opinions may be a bit skewed. %300 was only offered for about a week and from what I've seen have been for garbage pickups like a flight to OKC for an overnight and a DH back.

Thank you for your concern but Mesa will never get anything as good as your current airline. So your opinion is invalid.

From reading your comments you are the typical pilot backstabber. You don't care what you leave behind as long as you benefit. This is how Mesa became Mesa. You would have fit in well at Freedom. You are the same type of pilot that made the same bed you sleep in now. You can continue the trend or you can stand up and fix it. I bet you complain a lot but yet do nothing...

06-14-2017, 11:39 AM

#4303

MAGNegotiations

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Originally Posted by 85guy

so 5-B,
if we are sitting on a maintenance delay on the plane and it hits 4 hrs, we can grab our bags and head out of airport and start seeking a hotel room. thats how i read this wording

That is correct, however you will need to request the hotel room through Crew Tracking and make a decision if it's worth going to a hotel if the aircraft is close to being fixed etc.

But, yes it gives you that right.

06-14-2017, 11:40 AM

#4304

wt93205

Hold my beer, watch this.

Joined APC: Aug 2012

Position: Airbus Pilot

Posts: 246

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud 9

It's amazing how everyone who doesn't work here anymore wants to give their $0.02 about voting no, when your not paying my bills. The struggle is real for us Mesa pilots.

Well I voted no twice when I was at Mesa. It was real for me then and I still care about my Mesa buddies not getting left behind. The struggle became a struggle when people voted yes for a substandard contract. Do what you want though...

06-14-2017, 11:40 AM

#4305

85guy

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section 5-b-11 is a joke. its like a kid sitting on santas lap asking what he wants for christmas. there is nothing binding in this portion. dont even know why its in here

06-14-2017, 11:45 AM

#4306

Cloud 9

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DOS+1 ? I know that means date of signing but why does it get less as it goes up?

06-14-2017, 11:45 AM

#4307

Out Of Trim

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Joined APC: Nov 2015

Posts: 274

Quote:

Originally Posted by airflight999

I'm voting yes. I want that money in the short term. At my longevity, it's about $500 more a month, which equates to $6,000 more a year. I don't expect to be here more than another year or two. If this thing gets voted down now, there likely won't be another TA for two more years, looking at the glacial pace of negotiations. That's $12,000 I would be losing out on.

I'm sorry but this is Mesa and we're always going to be bottom of the barrel with JO at the helm. Take what you can now, and do your best to find employment at a better airline in the meantime.

Glacial pace? They were only in mediation 2 weeks before announcing a TA. Mgt is chomping at the bit to get something in place because they don't like the idea of no reserves, 200 - 300%, and continued roster shrinkage. They are hoping for folks with your views to settle for this one while knowing that, if it doesn't pass, they will be forced to very quickly offer up something much more palatable. Mesa pilots have suffered for YEARS while hoping for just a chance to get what's fair and reasonable. Now that time has finally arrived and this opportunity must be capitalized upon. If this contract is voted in, we will still be at the bottom of regionals. 5 years from now we will be even further behind as others always find ways to improve at a greater rate than Mesa. Like you, I have no intention of staying here any longer than necessary. However, I have no intention of letting Mesa management slide another one in and leaving that legacy to future employees. It's time for this company to be paying and treating its employees the same as their counterparts. We've waited so long that to wait just a little longer while watching Mesa reluctantly man-up will be well worth it IMO.