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Old 06-14-2017, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by airflight999
I'm voting yes. I want that money in the short term. At my longevity, it's about $500 more a month, which equates to $6,000 more a year. I don't expect to be here more than another year or two. If this thing gets voted down now, there likely won't be another TA for two more years, looking at the glacial pace of negotiations. That's $12,000 I would be losing out on.

I'm sorry but this is Mesa and we're always going to be bottom of the barrel with JO at the helm. Take what you can now, and do your best to find employment at a better airline in the meantime.
I'm in a similar spot, but dude, it screws future guys and continues to hurt every other regional's bargaining leverage. Enough's enough, let's leave this place better than we found it.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:39 AM
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is it out yet? thought they said by noon today
TA is out. It can be found at mag.alpa.org
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:58 AM
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links arent working
I'm told you must login. Upper right hand corner.
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Enough's enough, let's leave this place better than we found it.
But we would be. Do you remember first year making $22/hour having to eat fig bars from the plane for dinner because you couldn't afford a ****in meal? Because I do. $36/hour is actually livable. What if something happens to the industry where Mesa isn't in a position to give out these bonuses anymore (which are completely bogus) and we're back to giving first year FOs $22/hour again? That would be awful.
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:17 AM
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nowhere in the contract is DOS defined
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:20 AM
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Looked at the contract and for 7 years of negotiations that is all you get? LOL! If I was still at Mesa it would be another no vote. In 6 months you will have another TA... JO needs it. They are giving 300 percent for overtime right? Well you vote this in, they will be able to get FO's so you won't have that 300 percent anymore. So you might as well keep asking for more money then what this thing offers...

I think the MEC did the right thing letting you vote on it but I would vote no and send it back for more. Keep these guys though as they are heading in the right direction.

Two changes I would want to see are the pay rates to be the same DOS instead of taking 2 years, as well as a few bucks higher which would still be below industry average. Second, better health insurance coverage like excluding the FA's and making it pilots only. Then you would get a yes from me.
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 85guy
nowhere in the contract is DOS defined
Date of Signing (DOS)
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:32 AM
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so 5-B,
if we are sitting on a maintenance delay on the plane and it hits 4 hrs, we can grab our bags and head out of airport and start seeking a hotel room. thats how i read this wording
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by wt93205
Looked at the contract and for 7 years of negotiations that is all you get? LOL! If I was still at Mesa it would be another no vote. In 6 months you will have another TA... JO needs it. They are giving 300 percent for overtime right? Well you vote this in, they will be able to get FO's so you won't have that 300 percent anymore. So you might as well keep asking for more money then what this thing offers...

I think the MEC did the right thing letting you vote on it but I would vote no and send it back for more. Keep these guys though as they are heading in the right direction.
You're not at Mesa anymore so your opinions may be a bit skewed. %300 was only offered for about a week and from what I've seen have been for garbage pickups like a flight to OKC for an overnight and a DH back.

Thank you for your concern but Mesa will never get anything as good as your current airline. So your opinion is invalid.
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:35 AM
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It's amazing how everyone who doesn't work here anymore wants to give their $0.02 about voting no, when your not paying my bills. The struggle is real for us Mesa pilots.
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